<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions) --> <!--X-From-R13: OccyrBv[naNnby.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:05:37 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 261f8cc0.3615941a#aol,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room des</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:ApplePiMan#aol,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00030.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00032.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00082.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00083.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00031">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00031">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00031">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:ApplePiMan#aol,com">ApplePiMan#aol,com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:03:54 EDT</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> At 10/2/98 11:24 AM Adam Wiggins (adam#angel,com) altered the fabric of reality by uttering: >On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Brandon J. Rickman wrote: >> [snip good argument against simulation-style muds] >> There is the potential that you might >> log in one day and find that all the characters have been killed and eaten >> by starving wolves. This is not fun. > >Hey now: that's just *your* definition of fun. You've just pinned >down one of the best parts of sim: big sweeping changes can, and >occasionally do, affect the game world, and there's not always anything >the players can do about it. I agree this could lead to some entertaining (if not exactly "fun" by my definition, either) situations. But note that big, sweeping changes are not the exclusive property of a sim. A self-sustaining dramatist approach could conceivably come to the conclusion that such a big, sweeping change was the best course to promote (literary) conflict in the game world. -Rick. --------------------------------------------------------- Rick Buck, President and CEO <<A HREF="mailto:rlb#big-i,com">mailto:rlb#big-i,com</A>> Beyond Infinity Games, Inc. See you in The Metaverse! <<A HREF="http://www.big-i.com">http://www.big-i.com</A>> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Adam Wiggins <adam#angel,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00030.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00032.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00082.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00083.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00031"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00031"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00029" HREF="msg00029.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Roomdescriptions)</A></strong>, ApplePiMan <a href="mailto:ApplePiMan#aol,com">ApplePiMan#aol,com</a>, Sat 03 Oct 1998, 02:38 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00027" HREF="msg00027.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, ApplePiMan <a href="mailto:ApplePiMan#aol,com">ApplePiMan#aol,com</a>, Sat 03 Oct 1998, 01:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00030" HREF="msg00030.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 03 Oct 1998, 02:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00082" HREF="msg00082.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Mon 05 Oct 1998, 17:30 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00031" HREF="msg00031.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, ApplePiMan <a href="mailto:ApplePiMan#aol,com">ApplePiMan#aol,com</a>, Sat 03 Oct 1998, 03:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Mon 05 Oct 1998, 17:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00033" HREF="msg00033.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, Peck, Matthew x96724c1 <a href="mailto:x96724#exmail,usma.army.mil">x96724#exmail,usma.army.mil</a>, Sat 03 Oct 1998, 04:40 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00034" HREF="msg00034.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, ApplePiMan <a href="mailto:ApplePiMan#aol,com">ApplePiMan#aol,com</a>, Sat 03 Oct 1998, 05:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00039" HREF="msg00039.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Storytelling vs. Simulationist (Was Re: Room descriptions)</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 03 Oct 1998, 09:45 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>