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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</H1>
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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:42:32 -0500</LI>
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Marian writes:
&gt;First,  virtual sociopath on a mud is somebody
&gt;who does not empathise with the other players but
&gt;is only interested in his own fun. This is much
&gt;the same as a schoolyard bully.

I think you've finally hit the nail on the head.
The virtual sociopath is one and the same as the
schoolyard bully.  We build our muds as a form of
playground, and these are the people who try to
dominate the other kids.  The bully isn't a sociopath,
and most of these children won't be deeply traumatized
by a single playground incident.  But it's not
acceptable behavior, it does cause harm to the
other users, and "It's just a game" isn't a good
enough excuse.

I think the exact terms that the "Tailor" problem
were expressed in brought undue focus on the aspect
of playerkilling and diluted the issue as a whole.
I assume from your other posts that you'd agree.
This issue isn't just about playerkilling.  PK is
only one method that a bully uses to harass and
dominate the other players.  Other means are just
as important.  I wonder if a better expression of
your dilemma would be: "How do we protect users
from bullies without forcing them to become bullies
in turn?"




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<LI><strong><A NAME="00073" HREF="msg00073.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
apocalypse <a href="mailto:apocalypse#pipeline,com">apocalypse#pipeline,com</a>, Sun 04 Oct 1998, 23:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00074" HREF="msg00074.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Mon 05 Oct 1998, 02:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00079" HREF="msg00079.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 05 Oct 1998, 16:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00085" HREF="msg00085.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Mon 05 Oct 1998, 18:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00091" HREF="msg00091.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Mon 05 Oct 1998, 20:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00101" HREF="msg00101.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
Benjamin D. Wiechel <a href="mailto:strycher#toast,net">strycher#toast,net</a>, Tue 06 Oct 1998, 17:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00102" HREF="msg00102.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 06 Oct 1998, 18:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00104" HREF="msg00104.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Tue 06 Oct 1998, 18:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00103" HREF="msg00103.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, 
S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Tue 06 Oct 1998, 18:42 GMT
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