<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design) --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNhaqre.rate.ftv.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:32:15 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199810141729.KAA25617#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199810140141.TAA16130@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World De</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00201.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00203.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00194.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00205.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00202">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00202">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00202">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design) </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:29:26 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:41:40 -0600 Chris Gray<cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA> wrote: > [J C Lawrence:] >> 3) Data I don't care if its correct or not. >> Examples of each: >> #3 Predictive data from clients, or data from clients that >> doesn't directly affect world state (eg SAY, TELL). > Only if no NPC hears what is spoken and acts on it. E.g. > tell packrat to kill Chris <ponder> I fail to see how this is a compromise outside of the case where the claimed originator of the command is forged (already caught by simple veracity checking -- commands for characters can only originate from clients representing those characters). -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00205" HREF="msg00205.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Jon Leonard <jleonard#divcom,slimy.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00194" HREF="msg00194.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Chris Gray <cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00201.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Laws of Online World Design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00203.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00194.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00205.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00202"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00202"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00196" HREF="msg00196.html">[MUD-Dev] [Tech] socket slowdown solved</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 14 Oct 1998, 05:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00216" HREF="msg00216.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [Tech] socket slowdown solved</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 15 Oct 1998, 06:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00192" HREF="msg00192.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 13 Oct 1998, 23:14 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00194" HREF="msg00194.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 14 Oct 1998, 01:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 14 Oct 1998, 17:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00205" HREF="msg00205.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Wed 14 Oct 1998, 19:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00214" HREF="msg00214.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 15 Oct 1998, 02:25 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00180" HREF="msg00180.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A Query Regarding Economies in a Text Environment</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 13 Oct 1998, 19:08 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00170" HREF="msg00170.html">[MUD-Dev] A Query Regarding Economies in a Text Environment</A></strong>, Brandon A Downey <a href="mailto:badowney#sprynet,com">badowney#sprynet,com</a>, Tue 13 Oct 1998, 09:15 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>