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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko &lt;<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>&gt;</LI>
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Wilburn, E.J. wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; I don't know if you're at all familiar with Subspace from Virgin
&gt; Interactive &lt;<A  HREF="http://www.vie.com/subspace">http://www.vie.com/subspace</A>&gt;, but they would attempt to detect
&gt; any debuggers in memory and then log the IP address of the system
&gt; attempting to debug their program.  I'm not sure how well it worked but the
&gt; few months I spent playing SubSpace were relatively cheat free.

Here's next flamebite: okay, they cheat. So what? I remember a statement
like "the fun is the paramount", so no matter what they do, they're
having fun and as long as you don't lose your profits (presumed it's
about a commercial MUD), you're fine.

And, the crackers play a positive role as well - I doubt your losses
would be THAT bad if even you charge $20/hour, but they will definitely
spot the weak links in your system, and ultimately you will thank them.

&gt; -E.J. Wilburn

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UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00251" HREF="msg00251.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></strong>, 
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Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 01:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00243" HREF="msg00243.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World</A></strong>, 
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