<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign) --> <!--X-From-R13: "Ybfgre, Dncu" <exbfgreNbevtva.rn.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:05:26 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B41793EDC174#forest,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00272.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00274.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00276.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00256.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00273">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00273">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00273">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" <<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:59:53 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > -----Original Message----- > From: quzah [sotfhome] [<A HREF="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">mailto:quzah#softhome,net</A>] > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:26 AM > To: mud-dev#kanga,nu > Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D > esign) > > > From: Koster, Raph <rkoster#origin,ea.com> on Tuesday, > October 20, 1998 at 8:49 > AM > Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of > Online World D esign) > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vadim Tkachenko [<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>] > >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 10:29 PM > >> To: mud-dev#kanga,nu > >> Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client > >I have NEVER seen a game where > >prevalence of hack programs was regarded as a good thing by > either the > >designers or the playerbase as a whole. > > > >-Raph > > > The character backup program for Diablo(tm) for online playing. > I believe some of these allowed you to duplicate items, but the > one I had around did not. Thus, it was handy when you wanted to > play by yourself, or in a locked game with a pal and didn't want > to worry about all of the cheaters coming in and slaughtering > you. Shrug. > -Q- A new law? "Hacks breed other hacks." What you're saying is that since you regarded the prevalence of hacks as a problem, you welcomed a hack that minimized their impact. My statement stands :) -Raph </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00272.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00274.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00276.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00256.html">[MUD-Dev] GameStorm</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00273"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00273"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00271" HREF="msg00271.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 15:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00278" HREF="msg00278.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 00:38 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00272" HREF="msg00272.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 16:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00276" HREF="msg00276.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Steve Sparks <a href="mailto:ssparks#enigma,sss.org">ssparks#enigma,sss.org</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 17:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00273" HREF="msg00273.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 17:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00256" HREF="msg00256.html">[MUD-Dev] GameStorm</A></strong>, Matthew R. Sheahan <a href="mailto:chaos#crystal,palace.net">chaos#crystal,palace.net</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 01:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00258" HREF="msg00258.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: GameStorm</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 02:39 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00245" HREF="msg00245.html">[MUD-Dev] FW: Book?</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 19 Oct 1998, 16:34 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00223" HREF="msg00223.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: TTYQuake</A></strong>, Niklas Elmqvist <a href="mailto:d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se">d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se</a>, Fri 16 Oct 1998, 05:41 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>