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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Nathan F Yospe <<A HREF="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:47:14 -1000</LI>
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Matthew R. Sheahan wrote:
:Ling propagated a meme to the effect of:
:> Out of interest, how do people feel about mundane messages like arrival
:> being 'spiced up'. Instead of:
:> Bubba arrives from the east.
:> It becomes:
:> Bubba walks in from the east.
:> Bubba strolls in from the east.
:> And so on. Would this become annoying? I think the chances are it'll
:> probably be an overwhelming yes.
:why would it be annoying? because it's more difficult to script triggers
:for?
:on Lost Souls, we use a movement verb appropriate to the actual mode of
:locomotion in use.
: Bubba walks in from the east.
: Bubba flies in from the east.
: Bubba swims in from the east.
: Bubba hobbles in from the east. (Bubba is missing one or more feet.)
: Bubba crawls in from the east. (Bubba is missing one or more legs.)
:saying things like "Bubba leaves west" and "Bubba arrives from the east"
:just seemed like presenting a much more abstract grade of information than
:is called for. you're basically presenting a bare-bones statement of a
:change in containment relationships between objects; i really think it
:needs a little embellishment if it's going to promote immersion.
:we don't let people designate whatever verb they want to use like a MUSH
:would because we're into some degree of consistency between effects; if
:someone "jets west on a massive column of flame", i want to know why the
:piece of paper on the ground didn't ignite.
:i kind of think there are two big schools of thought there: the throwing
:around whatever character strings we like school, and the phenomena
:modelling school.
Back when I was running Singularity, I had things like this (mode/mood)
for exits and entrances, but allowed override by the room, so that a
given room might force all walkers to crawl through the muck in order to
leave (just as a string, not as a real effect), and show this to both
the leaver and the witnesses. A room would also control the messages
seen on the far side... this to allow a different message depending on
how they arrived. It was nice, and occasionally genuinely useful. Seems
a bit primitive in retrospect, but then, I don't even have rooms, and a
movement is *always* interpreted in that manner now, no matter what it
is... Ah, well... it was nice, back then, to think I'd done something
magnificent.
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University of Hawaii at Manoa, Dept of Physics, second year senior (joy)
(On Call) Associate Algorithm Developer, Textron Systems Corp, Maui Ops.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00315" HREF="msg00315.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 18:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00323" HREF="msg00323.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 22:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00329" HREF="msg00329.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Marc Hernandez <a href="mailto:marc#jb,com">marc#jb,com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 01:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00301" HREF="msg00301.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Matthew R. Sheahan <a href="mailto:chaos#crystal,palace.net">chaos#crystal,palace.net</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 15:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00325" HREF="msg00325.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 00:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00307" HREF="msg00307.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 17:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00316" HREF="msg00316.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 20:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00318" HREF="msg00318.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 21:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00361" HREF="msg00361.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 19:31 GMT
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