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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Petri Virkkula &lt;<A HREF="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:33:50 +0300 (EEST)</LI>
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "JCL" == J C Lawrence &lt;claw#kanga,nu&gt; writes:

JCL&gt; This is a myth originated by partially competant authors and users of
JCL&gt; softcode servers.  It is a very long way from the truth.  Go have a
JCL&gt; look at properly (ie efficiently) constructed and written softcode
JCL&gt; based MUDs (ColdX and BatMUD are good starters).  Also look at the
JCL&gt; (very few) stats available from Marcus Ranum

	I would not call BatMUD efficiently coded but you are right
	(IMHO) that a softcode system can handle enough
	players. However most of BatMUD's performance comes from a
	dedicated and fast hardware.

	As people are planning a new MUD, IMHO they should think what
	kind of system it will be running, ie. make a design decision
	whether the MUD should try to keep its resourse usage low in
	case of non-dedicated machine(s) or try to make it to as fast as
	possible in case of a dedicated machine(s) (or something
	between those two choices). It is too difficult to change that
	kind of design decisions afterwards, atleast my experience
	with BatMUD indicate so.

	I have written a document (though it is not finished yet) how
	to make LPMud game driver multithreaded and/or distributed. It
	is located at
	&lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://www.iki.fi/pvirkkul/pubs/MUD/mt-lpmud.html">http://www.iki.fi/pvirkkul/pubs/MUD/mt-lpmud.html</A>&gt; if
	you are interested in reading it.


	Petri


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00368" HREF="msg00368.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 23:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00372" HREF="msg00372.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#dworkin,nl">felix#dworkin,nl</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 01:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00373" HREF="msg00373.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
Darrin Hyrup <a href="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com">shades#mythicgames,com</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 02:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00387" HREF="msg00387.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 04:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00394" HREF="msg00394.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
Petri Virkkula <a href="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 12:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00397" HREF="msg00397.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
Darrin Hyrup <a href="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com">shades#mythicgames,com</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 14:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00412" HREF="msg00412.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 20:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00375" HREF="msg00375.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 02:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00380" HREF="msg00380.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 03:41 GMT
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