<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary --> <!--X-From-R13: Xb Rvyyba <rzvylNgurybavbhf.arj.bk.np.hx> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:41:31 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 19981023213830.A24840#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: a288d201.362fc82f#aol,com --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.981023101951.18389G-100000#enigma,sss.org --> <!--X-Reference: 19981023175413.A20008#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk --> <!--X-Reference: 19981023134644.C11290#flagstaff,Princeton.EDU --> <!--X-Reference: 19981023124709.A3409#divcom,slimy.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00414.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00416.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00410.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00424.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00415">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00415">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00415">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jo Dillon <<A HREF="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:38:30 +0100</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Jon Leonard (jleonard#divcom,slimy.com) spake thusly: > > There really aren't that many OS features that a MUD needs to use, and with > a modular design, these can often be isolated. > > I think the only things that all modules would have to be aware of are > dynamic linking and threads. There should be compile time options to > turn those off, too. (My old computer supports neither, for example.) > Threads tend to be an all-or-nothing thing; it's hard to just 'switch them off' :) > Filesystem access and player communications should probably be isolated to > singles modules, so the effort of porting them to exotic systems should > be fairly low. > > In short, I think portability is important, and with only a little extra > effort we can make stuff portable even beyond the range of posix systems. > > Things we'll have to be careful about for portability: > > Endianness (sending data between systems might get mangled) > 64-bit cleanliness (sizeof(int) isn't necessarily sizeof(pointer)) > Threads > Sockets and other non-blocking IO > Other things I haven't thought about Threads and sockets should definitely be abstracted IMHO; I've got a thin blocking socket and threads wrapper somewhere. -- Jo Harmony - the project to create an LGPL Qt clone <A HREF="http://harmony.ruhr.de">http://harmony.ruhr.de</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00451" HREF="msg00451.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00424" HREF="msg00424.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Jon Leonard <jleonard#divcom,slimy.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00369" HREF="msg00369.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> ApplePiMan#aol,com</LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00400" HREF="msg00400.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Steve Sparks <ssparks#enigma,sss.org></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00401" HREF="msg00401.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jo Dillon <emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00403" HREF="msg00403.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Adam J. Thornton" <adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00410" HREF="msg00410.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jon Leonard <jleonard#divcom,slimy.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00414.html">[MUD-Dev] OT, kinda, but yay :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00416.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Crack.Com deceased, Golgotha source released , (sorta)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00410.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00424.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00415"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00415"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00400" HREF="msg00400.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Steve Sparks <a href="mailto:ssparks#enigma,sss.org">ssparks#enigma,sss.org</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 16:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00401" HREF="msg00401.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 16:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00403" HREF="msg00403.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 17:50 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00410" HREF="msg00410.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 19:52 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00415" HREF="msg00415.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 20:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00424" HREF="msg00424.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 21:42 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00451" HREF="msg00451.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 24 Oct 1998, 04:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00456" HREF="msg00456.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Sat 24 Oct 1998, 10:25 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00484" HREF="msg00484.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>, Niklas Elmqvist <a href="mailto:d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se">d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 14:12 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>