<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives? --> <!--X-From-R13: Fenivf Qnfrl <rsvaqryNcbynevf.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:11:30 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 2585.981031#io,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 19981031014507.A429#donut,dhis.org --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00630.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00632.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00595.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00616.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00631">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00631">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00631">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Thandor <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:03:36 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 30 October 1998, Thandor wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 01:54:38PM +0100, Niklas Elmqvist wrote: >> Well, Diku has the advantage of offering a large amount of players a >> roleplaying system they are familiar with -- AD&D (quite close, at least). > Well, I can only speak for the way I play AD&D, but the similarity I see is > many dikus have a fantasy theme. Beyond that, not much. Meaning, race/class > names, and some spell/skill names have been adopted, but I'm yet to find a mud > that plays remotely like a tabletop game of AD&D. So I think that's more of a > theme issue than a server issue - you could take pretty much any mud and slap > a medieval fantasy theme on it. As a paper RPG designer, I see a huge amount of similarity: - use of a class/level system, with experience points - the four basic classes (fighter, thief, mage, cleric) (in particular, the spell-casting cleric with an emphasis on healing spells is a sign of being derived from D&D/AD&D) - hit-point-based damage, with hit points increasing with level - armor that makes you harder to hit instead of absorbing damage - a magic system in which spells have arbitrary effects (that is, there is no "spell design system" -- spells are simply made up and assigned to a level by GM fiat) - access to spells based on level (i.e., a 4th level mage can't cast this spell at all, but a 5th level mage can) These characteristics are rarely seen in paper RPGs that aren't direct derivatives of either D&D or AD&D. In particular, by the time the first Dikus were built, most paper RPGs had abandoned class/level systems, hit-point-based damage with hit points increasing with level, and armor that makes you harder to hit. -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00593" HREF="msg00593.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Thandor <thandor#donut,dhis.org></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00630.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD-Dev's DevMUD: a word of caution</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00632.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD-Dev's DevMUD: a word of caution</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00595.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00616.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00631"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00631"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00589" HREF="msg00589.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></strong>, Thandor <a href="mailto:thandor#donut,dhis.org">thandor#donut,dhis.org</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 12:08 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00591" HREF="msg00591.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></strong>, Niklas Elmqvist <a href="mailto:d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se">d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 12:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00593" HREF="msg00593.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></strong>, Thandor <a href="mailto:thandor#donut,dhis.org">thandor#donut,dhis.org</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 14:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00595" HREF="msg00595.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></strong>, Darrin Hyrup <a href="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com">shades#mythicgames,com</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 17:05 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00631" HREF="msg00631.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Sat 31 Oct 1998, 19:11 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00616" HREF="msg00616.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></strong>, Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Sat 31 Oct 1998, 05:43 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00620" HREF="msg00620.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD Objectives?</A></strong>, Thandor <a href="mailto:thandor#donut,dhis.org">thandor#donut,dhis.org</a>, Sat 31 Oct 1998, 07:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00586" HREF="msg00586.html">[MUD-Dev] META/ADMIN: CVS for DevMUD security</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 05:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00603" HREF="msg00603.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META/ADMIN: CVS for DevMUD security</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 22:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>