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<LI><em>To</em>: Jay Carlson &lt;<A HREF="mailto:nop#mitre,org">nop#mitre,org</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:02:46 -0800 (PST)</LI>
<LI><em>Cc</em>: <A HREF="mailto:devmud#kanga,nu">devmud#kanga,nu</A>, <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
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On 22-Dec-98 Jay Carlson wrote:
&gt; cynbe &lt;cynbe#muq,org&gt; wrote:
&gt; 
&gt;&gt; (2) If you need to pass numbers through human channels, a possible
&gt;&gt;     improvement on UUENCODE-ing style translation is:
&gt; 
&gt; That's what S/Key (and its successor systems) do.  Quoting RFC 2289:

Very good!  I wasn't aware of this reference.  (Thanks!)

Gee, seems like I have good and original ideas, but the original
ideas aren't good, and the good ideas aren't original.  :) :) :)

&gt; 
&gt;&gt;       (For extra credit:  Pick separate verb, noun and adjective sets of
&gt;&gt;     1024 words, and arrange for your numbers to make grammatical
&gt;&gt; sentences.
&gt;&gt;     I'll bet this will increase the mnemonicity of the encoded numbers
&gt;&gt;     significantly.)
&gt; 
&gt; If you can get enough information crammed in there.

Well, in principle you're adding 2 bits per word if you have four
sets of 1024 words instead of just one, which will make the encodings
slightly longer -- half a letter per word?  I'd guess the gain in
mnemonicity would be worth it.
  I've made up candidate sets of 1024 words sorted by grammatical
category, to build a Muq random password generation utility similar in
spirit to the lambdamoo one you describe, but I haven't coded it up and
tested it yet.  (I'm happy to share the wordlists if anyone wants them.
They aren't posted anywhere public at the moment.)

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<LI><strong><A NAME="01037" HREF="msg01037.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</A></strong>, 
cynbe <a href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</a>, Tue 22 Dec 1998, 05:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01038" HREF="msg01038.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Tue 22 Dec 1998, 06:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01039" HREF="msg01039.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</A></strong>, 
cynbe <a href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</a>, Tue 22 Dec 1998, 10:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01040" HREF="msg01040.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</A></strong>, 
Jay Carlson <a href="mailto:nop#mitre,org">nop#mitre,org</a>, Tue 22 Dec 1998, 15:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01042" HREF="msg01042.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</A></strong>, 
cynbe <a href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</a>, Tue 22 Dec 1998, 20:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01041" HREF="msg01041.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</A></strong>, 
T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Tue 22 Dec 1998, 16:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01044" HREF="msg01044.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [DevMUD] Re: Database module</A></strong>, 
Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#dworkin,nl">felix#dworkin,nl</a>, Tue 22 Dec 1998, 21:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01024" HREF="msg01024.html">[MUD-Dev] Developing a MUD for the first time?</A></strong>, 
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Mon 21 Dec 1998, 07:13 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01022" HREF="msg01022.html">[MUD-Dev] client stuff...</A></strong>, 
Andrew Wilson <a href="mailto:andrew#aaaaaaaa,demon.co.uk">andrew#aaaaaaaa,demon.co.uk</a>, Sat 19 Dec 1998, 20:04 GMT
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