<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <qvnoybNorfg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:02:18 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.4.10.9909271317160.10862-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Marcel-1.46-0925074732-b49Ky&5#catling,demon.nl --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:diablo#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00511.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00512.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00506.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00482.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00510">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00510">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00510">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Mud Dev Mailing list <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:22:38 -0700 (PDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Marian Griffith wrote: > > From: Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com> > > > > >If they complain vocally, then yes. Everyone is living in the same virtual > > >world, > > Ah, but are they? I obviously did not express myself clearly enough. The > point I was trying to make was that players do not -expect- to be living > in the same virtual world. I was not pointing at a right or wrong situa- > tion but at a shattered expectations one. Yes, clearly they are existing in the same virtual world. I agree that the players may not expect to be living in the same virtual world, but that's life. If you knew every detail about a game ahead of time, it'd not be a lot of fun, to my mind. > > This is in fact the problem that is expressed by 'the Stampcollectors > Dilemma' in the faq. Can, and should, you cater for all different types > of play and all different interests in the same game? You can't, it's fundamentally impossible. You cannot, for instance, cater simultaneously to those who want 100% rp and those who do not. Either you have 100% rp or you don't. Numerous other examples would be easy to give (those who want no p-killing at all, and those who want some, for instance) --matt _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00511.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Dynamic muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00512.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: We're moving again</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00510"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00510"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00445" HREF="msg00445.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Richard Bartle <a href="mailto:76703.3042#compuserve,com">76703.3042#compuserve,com</a>, Tue 21 Sep 1999, 23:57 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00474" HREF="msg00474.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Rhonda Alexander <a href="mailto:raalexander#home,com">raalexander#home,com</a>, Thu 23 Sep 1999, 21:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00478" HREF="msg00478.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:38 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 27 Sep 1999, 16:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 27 Sep 1999, 22:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00482" HREF="msg00482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00484" HREF="msg00484.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 03:21 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00493" HREF="msg00493.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 18:32 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>