02 Aug, 2009, Runter wrote in the 42nd comment:
Koron said:
I really don't think this is a fair statement. I find taking shots at trolls to be endearing and a perfectly amusing way to pass the time. It doesn't make them any more popular and sooner or later they learn that we make fun of them because we don't approve of their trolldom.
No one is forced to read or agree with anything anyone says. I didn't even read the Dubstack thread because I found my eyes bleeding every time I tried to do so. But even still, it serves as an excellent example of why only mature people capable of forming coherent thoughts should be trying to run muds–a fact that stands alone, having absolutely nothing to do with the person who serves to remind us of it.
Davion said:
Dubstack is an active troll. Taking shots at Locke or Vryce are different, because they wont come here to feed off those comments.
I really don't think this is a fair statement. I find taking shots at trolls to be endearing and a perfectly amusing way to pass the time. It doesn't make them any more popular and sooner or later they learn that we make fun of them because we don't approve of their trolldom.
No one is forced to read or agree with anything anyone says. I didn't even read the Dubstack thread because I found my eyes bleeding every time I tried to do so. But even still, it serves as an excellent example of why only mature people capable of forming coherent thoughts should be trying to run muds–a fact that stands alone, having absolutely nothing to do with the person who serves to remind us of it.
Not sure if it's been said but I think I'll say it in any event.
I think Samson felt sorry for Dubstack. He came here looking for help and got ridiculed for the way he talked as well as his laissez-faire attitude about developing his mud and his role in learning how to program. I found myself feeling sorry for him. I'm sure Samson did too. I doubt anyone wants this to be a place where people just feel intimidated to post. Even people with bad vocabulary. I'm not so sure he was a troll in the classical sense. I think a lot of it was genuine ignorance or lack of education.
This makes it a totally different situation from med-thievia or Fury or Locke.
edit: Not throwing stones in glass houses here. He deserved a lot of that ridicule.
02 Aug, 2009, Cratylus wrote in the 43rd comment:
In case it's been missed, I'd like to point out that nobody's face
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
-Crat
http://lpmuds.net
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
-Crat
http://lpmuds.net
02 Aug, 2009, David Haley wrote in the 44th comment:
Runter said:
Not sure if it's been said but I think I'll say it in any event.
I think Samson felt sorry for Dubstack. He came here looking for help and got ridiculed for the way he talked as well as his laissez-faire attitude about developing his mud and his role in learning how to program. I found myself feeling sorry for him. I'm sure Samson did too. I doubt anyone wants this to be a place where people just feel intimidated to post. Even people with bad vocabulary. I'm not so sure he was a troll in the classical sense. I think a lot of it was genuine ignorance or lack of education.
This makes it a totally different situation from med-thievia or Fury or Locke.
edit: Not throwing stones in glass houses here. He deserved a lot of that ridicule.
I think Samson felt sorry for Dubstack. He came here looking for help and got ridiculed for the way he talked as well as his laissez-faire attitude about developing his mud and his role in learning how to program. I found myself feeling sorry for him. I'm sure Samson did too. I doubt anyone wants this to be a place where people just feel intimidated to post. Even people with bad vocabulary. I'm not so sure he was a troll in the classical sense. I think a lot of it was genuine ignorance or lack of education.
This makes it a totally different situation from med-thievia or Fury or Locke.
edit: Not throwing stones in glass houses here. He deserved a lot of that ridicule.
So. Uh. This might be true, but it doesn't seem to be the MB administration's official POV, which is that Dubby was doing it on purpose.
Cratylus said:
In case it's been missed, I'd like to point out that nobody's face
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
Umm, you might want to take a look in the mirror though. :sad:
02 Aug, 2009, Runter wrote in the 45th comment:
Cratylus said:
In case it's been missed, I'd like to point out that nobody's face
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
-Crat
http://lpmuds.net
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
-Crat
http://lpmuds.net
I think a few people shot blood from their eyeballs.
02 Aug, 2009, Koron wrote in the 46th comment:
Davion said:
That makes you no better than the troll you're trying to defeat.
That's cool, just ignoring the actual substance of my post (the part where I disagree with you) and respond only to the part that was funny.
02 Aug, 2009, Cratylus wrote in the 47th comment:
David Haley said:
Umm, you might want to take a look in the mirror though. :sad:
Cratylus said:
In case it's been missed, I'd like to point out that nobody's face
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
has melted nor has the mudding world been obliterated just
because this discussion has been allowed to continue.
Umm, you might want to take a look in the mirror though. :sad:
What do you mean? I..OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME
02 Aug, 2009, Davion wrote in the 48th comment:
Koron said:
That's cool, just ignoring the actual substance of my post (the part where I disagree with you) and respond only to the part that was funny.
Davion said:
That makes you no better than the troll you're trying to defeat.
That's cool, just ignoring the actual substance of my post (the part where I disagree with you) and respond only to the part that was funny.
You're disagreeing with me, saying that trolling a troll is acceptable behavior because it 'teaches them a lesson'. Well, this isn't TMC. A PM from an admin for trolling goes a lot farther, than users attacking (how ever mild) on the forums. And acting this way makes you no better than they are.
02 Aug, 2009, Runter wrote in the 49th comment:
DH said:
So. Uh. This might be true, but it doesn't seem to be the MB administration's official POV, which is that Dubby was doing it on purpose.
I found it implied. Here a few sources.
Samson @ original thread said:
So are you guys all done being pricks now?
Samson @ original thread said:
Xrakisis said:
im not being a prick, dubstack cant type very well, but hes trying, runter was just plain mean..
Should probably avoid picking on someone's typing when your own is in bad shape too.
And really. Don't you guys have better things to do than be jerks about this?
im not being a prick, dubstack cant type very well, but hes trying, runter was just plain mean..
Should probably avoid picking on someone's typing when your own is in bad shape too.
And really. Don't you guys have better things to do than be jerks about this?
A few posts later Samson joined the fray...
After the thread returned focus on pounding Dubstack…
Samson @ original thread said:
Here's a novel concept. You guys don't like Dubstack and/or his MUD? Try this: Ignore him. Yeah, I know, scary thought. Just ignore him and you won't have to deal with it. All this bickering is pointless. Go find something else to spend time on. There's plenty of other posts you could be reading, yes?
Samson never locks the thread. The assumption is Davion does.
02 Aug, 2009, David Haley wrote in the 50th comment:
You realize that what you're saying is basically that from now on, it will be verboten to ever even refer to somebody who's trolling… right? Is that the policy we're coming to here?
02 Aug, 2009, David Haley wrote in the 51st comment:
Runter said:
I found it implied.
That was then, this is now. More recent comments don't agree with your theory.
Runter said:
Samson never locks the thread.
Uh– no? Davion hasn't been locking the threads… it's Samson.
02 Aug, 2009, Koron wrote in the 52nd comment:
I really don't know what "this isn't TMC" is supposed to mean because I don't exactly have a long history of reading the forums there. I'm also far beyond worrying about whether I'm better than a troll or not.
That said, if I'm going to have to be on my tippy toes about "trolling," why not the troll in question? If the admins are going to make trolling trolls a forbidden thing to do, it means that they're not enforcing their own rules in the first place.
That said, if I'm going to have to be on my tippy toes about "trolling," why not the troll in question? If the admins are going to make trolling trolls a forbidden thing to do, it means that they're not enforcing their own rules in the first place.
02 Aug, 2009, Runter wrote in the 53rd comment:
David Haley said:
You realize that what you're saying is basically that from now on, it will be verboten to ever even refer to somebody who's trolling… right? Is that the policy we're coming to here?
Technically since you are now an offender we may have to scratch our beard instead of invoking DavidMuhailey.
02 Aug, 2009, David Haley wrote in the 54th comment:
Runter said:
Technically since you are now an offender we may have to scratch our beard instead of invoking DavidMuhailey.
David Haley said:
You realize that what you're saying is basically that from now on, it will be verboten to ever even refer to somebody who's trolling… right? Is that the policy we're coming to here?
Technically since you are now an offender we may have to scratch our beard instead of invoking DavidMuhailey.
OMG you just trolled Scandum. :sad:
Who's more of a troll… the known troll or the known troll who trolls the known troll?
02 Aug, 2009, Runter wrote in the 55th comment:
Davion said:
This has gone on long enough :). To prevent Dubstack from being chewed out over this most recent post. This topic shall be locked.
I think it was Davion, but yeah. It could have been Samson. :)
02 Aug, 2009, quixadhal wrote in the 56th comment:
Wow… you guys really are worked up… Crat missed calling 50!
02 Aug, 2009, David Haley wrote in the 57th comment:
Oh. Davion might have locked the original one, but the past three? four? were locked by Samson.
02 Aug, 2009, Runter wrote in the 58th comment:
quixadhal said:
Wow… you guys really are worked up… Crat missed calling 50!
I think MB should reserve 50, 100, 150, 200, etc for banner rotation ads just to throw a monkey wrench in all that.
02 Aug, 2009, Cratylus wrote in the 59th comment:
Koron said:
I really don't know what "this isn't TMC" is supposed to mean because I don't exactly have a long history of reading the forums there.
Basically TMC has hurt the feelings of some people here, and they weren't able
to handle it, and so now "TMC" here is code for "wretched hive of scum and villainy."
TMC has rules in the form of a TOS that are actually adhered to. The moderation
is minimal and limited to handling posts/people that actually violate a specific rule
(mostly. there seems to be an unwritten rule about porn I broke :devil: ).
Basically, if you're a liar, or a blowhard, or an ignoramus, you will suffer greatly at TMC.
So…pay attention to who wrings their hands over it. It'll tell you much about them.
-Crat
http://lpmuds.net
02 Aug, 2009, Davion wrote in the 60th comment:
Koron said:
I really don't know what "this isn't TMC" is supposed to mean because I don't exactly have a long history of reading the forums there. I'm also far beyond worrying about whether I'm better than a troll or not.
That said, if I'm going to have to be on my tippy toes about "trolling," why not the troll in question? If the admins are going to make trolling trolls a forbidden thing to do, it means that they're not enforcing their own rules in the first place.
That said, if I'm going to have to be on my tippy toes about "trolling," why not the troll in question? If the admins are going to make trolling trolls a forbidden thing to do, it means that they're not enforcing their own rules in the first place.
Uh, you have noticed he stopped posting right? Has alot to do with what I said about PMs from admins being fairly effective ;).
DavidHaley said:
You realize that what you're saying is basically that from now on, it will be verboten to ever even refer to somebody who's trolling… right? Is that the policy we're coming to here?
If you're going to insult the person when bringing them up, then yes, it is verboten.
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That makes you no better than the troll you're trying to defeat.