<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Common Law [was: Declaration of the Rights of Avatars] --> <!--X-From-R13: "Quevfgbcure Oyyra" <QuevfgbcureONfxbgbf.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:23:02 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 004801bfa841$a41bf720$03000004#asmrb,org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Common Law [was: Declaration of the Rights of Avatar</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00366.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00367.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00346.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00348.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00365">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00365">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00365">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Common Law [was: Declaration of the Rights of Avatars]</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Common Law [was: Declaration of the Rights of Avatars]</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Christopher Allen" <<A HREF="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:50:17 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> I *highly* recommend that those that are serious about this topic to read any of Richard A. Epstein's books on common law. In particular I recommend "Simple Rules for a Complex World" <<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0674808215/ref=sim_books/104-7338171">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0674808215/ref=sim_books/104-7338171</A> -1116402>. Epstein is a law professor that states that the principles of Common Law, first derived from the middle ages of England, has basically six rules that now are the underpinnings of the western legal system. In fact, I find after reading this book a much better understanding the subtext of documents like our own Declaration of Independence. The six rules are: 1 - Individuals are those that are self-owners; (i.e. the state must agree who are individuals) 2 - Individuals may aquire unappropriated property; (i.e. the state must define what is private property) 3 - Individuals may make contracts with other people; (i.e. the state must allow people to make binding agreements with each other) 4 - The law of tort shall redress violations of individuals such as murder, rape, theft, robbery, and fraud; (i.e. if private property or contracts of individuals are violated, the state must act as arbiter) 5 - Private property may be violated only when there is overwhelming necessity; (the state must act for the common good) 6 - Whenever the state violates private property, whether by regulation or outright taking, it must compensate the owner; (i.e. even in cases of common good, the state is responsible for compensation of loss of private property). If you look at these six rules and then at the US Declaration of Independence, you will note that our founding fathers were in fact making a statement about England violating it's own common law. If you look at the Constitution, you will see that it vary rapidly defines a basis for each of these six rules. Epstein's overall arguement in a number of his books is that the job of law is not to promote virtue but rather to redress force and breaches of contract. He believes that the underlying principle should be that "government works best when it establishes the rules of the road, not when it seeks to determine the composition of the traffic." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ .. Christopher Allen Skotos Tech Inc. .. .. 1512 Walnut St., Berkeley, CA 94709-1513 .. .. <<A HREF="http://www.Skotos.net">http://www.Skotos.net</A>> o510/649-4030 f510/649-4034 .. _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00366.html">[MUD-Dev] AI, Bots, Scripting.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00367.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00346.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Common Law [was: Declaration of the Rights of Avatars]</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00348.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests - allocative efficiency</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00365"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00365"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00393" HREF="msg00393.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 21:53 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00398" HREF="msg00398.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>, Brian Green <a href="mailto:brian#psychochild,org">brian#psychochild,org</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 22:06 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00399" HREF="msg00399.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>, adam <a href="mailto:adam#treyarch,com">adam#treyarch,com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 00:06 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00346" HREF="msg00346.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Common Law [was: Declaration of the Rights of Avatars]</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00365" HREF="msg00365.html">[MUD-Dev] Common Law [was: Declaration of the Rights of Avatars]</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:23 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00348" HREF="msg00348.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests - allocative efficiency</A></strong>, Lovecraft <a href="mailto:dave#darkages,com">dave#darkages,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00323" HREF="msg00323.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>, Lovecraft <a href="mailto:dave#darkages,com">dave#darkages,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00341" HREF="msg00341.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>, Jon Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:41 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00354" HREF="msg00354.html">[MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>, Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>