Okies I don't know if this is going to help or not, but on the other mud I was adminning on (the one I quit Genghis) they recently brought out this thing called a "blood plane". Basically it was similar to shadowplane in that you could see the same ppl etc in the zone rah rah rah. Only thing is. If you were bashing in the blood plane you got 1.5 exp instead of 1 exp for your mobs. The catch was that you could only escape the blood plane by being capped. You could enter it freely at will. BUT. The blood plane was basically like an arena for ppl to pk, and fleeing is not possibly in blood plane. So if someone found you and wanted to pk you, your flees would not work, hence the added risk to bash in there. Don't know if this is interesting to you guys or not but hey. Mysty