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<LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Tuesday, September 30, 1997 2:47 PM, Adam 
Wiggins[SMTP:nightfall#user2,inficad.com] wrote:
&gt; This brings to mind a mud I played many a moon ago.  Certainly long 
before
&gt; I started on one of my own, anyways.  Not too sure, but I think the 
name
&gt; was Worlds of Carnage.

Just for the record, Worlds of Carnage, done by DimWit and Gilgamesh, 
was the first Diku to use an embedded scripting language, as opposed 
to calling spec_procs. Merc's mobprogs are based on their work, and 
used to be acknowledged as such in the docs... Merc's mobprogs, which 
now seem to be in common usage in the Diku world, also suck compared 
to Carnage's system. After WoC (founded in I think '92, and which I 
think is still around, though at one point the building that housed it 
burned down) came Legend with a somewhat nicer script language of its 
own and then Merc, and then another (Imperium Gothique?) that 
drastically extended and expanded mobprogs. Legend's original immortal 
staff is largely old Carnage players...

Far as I know, mobprogs is the only one of these that was ever 
released, although Cythera is running WoC code and has its "acts" 
system as well.

&gt; I logged on because they advertised an extensive
&gt; skill-tree based system, but what intriguied me the most was the 
Newbie
&gt; Sword.

The skill-tree based system was actually a rather late addition. It 
went in sometime after Legend opened, so that would put it in late '93 
or so?


&gt; The Newbie Sword was your standard issue weapon with a really
&gt; nicely-written script attached to it.

For me the best part about the newbie sword was putting it in your 
backpack and hearing it make muffled noises and complain about getting 
closed up... :) Then again, I didn't come to the mud as a newbie, so 
it was fairly annoying to me.

-Raph



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<LI><strong><A NAME="00019" HREF="msg00019.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] more classes (Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo)</A></strong>, 
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clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 01 Oct 1997, 18:47 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00003" HREF="msg00003.html">[MUD-Dev]  Stranger in a Strange Land (was Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK</A></strong>, 
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Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 01 Oct 1997, 14:45 GMT
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