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On 18/12/97 at 10:43 PM, Matt Chatterley &lt;root#mpc,dyn.ml.org&gt; said: &gt;On
Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Maddy wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Matt Chatterley wrote: 
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Sauron wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Matt Chatterley wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 s001gmu#nova,wright.edu wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Adam Wiggins wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Frank Herbert's Dune.  See Tolkien.
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; [Lengthy discussion about the Dune books]
...
&gt;&gt; &gt; And the film was *dire*!
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Actually I liked the film - it helps if you disassociate the book from it
&gt;&gt; and treat it as a seperate thing.

The Dune film had for me one extremely notable point:  They used the sound
track and only the sound track to carry the pacing and continuity for the
entire movie.  Turn the sound off and the movie falls apart into a
collection of fractionally related scenes.  Put it back on and all of a
sudden it starts back together, items relate, a plot starts to appear,
there is continuity, etc.

Dune actually isn't a bad movie for all that, tho I would have much
preferred to have seen it with the original classical sound track.  You
just need to watch it in its own right, as a happenstance similar to the
books, not a version of the book.

Re: Highlander.

&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Heh. I am repeatedly impressed by the quality of the TV show, as far as
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; spin-off shows go. The first movie was a *classic* (Chris Lambert, AND
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sean Connery!), the second was utterly bizarre, and the third sucked.
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; I really loved the first, the second one was well I don't know what it
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; was, and the third on its own was a fairly good movie, but when compared
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; to the rest of the "franchise" it is disappointing. 
&gt;&gt; &gt; 
&gt;&gt; &gt; The third was reasonable as a 'run of the mill action movie', something
&gt;&gt; &gt; which I counted the original above. This is the trouble with sequels - you
&gt;&gt; &gt; compare them to the originals, and they have generally lost the sparkle.
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; The 2nd Highlander film should be ignored completely - it only makes sense
&gt;&gt; if you see the highly editted version of Highlander that the Americans saw. 
&gt;&gt; Basically they removed all the plot, charactisation and just made it into a
&gt;&gt; full action movie.  McCloud lost all of his past etc. and so they were able
&gt;&gt; to make one up for the 2nd film.

I'll confess to finding all the Highlander movies and TV productions, err,
I think the term used above was "dire".  They are excruciatingly terrible
and hackneyed.

&gt;&gt; - The Xanth series: Piers Anthony.
&gt;&gt; Likewise, very funny.  Putting puns in a mud would probably be a bad idea,
&gt;&gt; but humour definitely is.

I lived up the road from him in Florida FWLIW.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00852" HREF="msg00852.html">LIST: Now back on the air</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 06:21 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00850" HREF="msg00850.html">I live over there!</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 05:09 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00849" HREF="msg00849.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>, 
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Wed 17 Dec 1997, 15:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00860" HREF="msg00860.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 09:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00930" HREF="msg00930.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 23 Dec 1997, 07:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00945" HREF="msg00945.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>, 
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Wed 24 Dec 1997, 10:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00874" HREF="msg00874.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 19 Dec 1997, 04:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00893" HREF="msg00893.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>, 
Sauron <a href="mailto:dlove#kusd,kusd.edu">dlove#kusd,kusd.edu</a>, Sun 21 Dec 1997, 00:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00863" HREF="msg00863.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 15:20 GMT
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