<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Usability and interface and who the hell is su --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. 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Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:16:29 -4</LI> <LI><em>Comments</em>: Authenticated sender is <jlsysinc#popd,ix.netcom.com></LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 15 Oct 97 at 9:37, coder#ibm,net wrote: > On 06/10/97 at 09:17 PM, caliban#darklock,com (Caliban Tiresias Darklock) > > >And finally, the cost/benefit ratio sucks. When my keyboard breaks, I go > >buy a new $15 keyboard. > > I spend ~$100 per keyboard if new, $$30 - $50 second hand. Trackballs I > typically spenmd about $30 - $40 for (I mostly get them at clearance > houses), but I suspect that I'll slowly start getting some industrial > trackballs which will run around the $200/ea range just to finally get > something that I don't have to worry about or ever replace. > > I will *ONLY* use the old heavy tactile feedback, lound click etc IBM > keyboards. Its the closest thing I've been able to find to a Selectric > typewriter yet. I've been buying them up at auctions, yard sales, flea > markets etc for a couple years now -- got about a half dozen spares > stashed in the closet right now. Want to get about another dozen or so > (they're mostly out of production (only RS6K left)) before I'll feel safe > there. Mega DITTOs *grin*. I will only use keyboards with mechanical switches. I only wish I could plug an IBM 3180 keyboard into my PC. This is one thing Big Blue did very very well. Some of their keyboards are pretty much indestructible. I still encounter models dating back to the late 70's in my work that work just fine. I haven't seen any good PC ones around lately. At least the last time I needed one, although I have heard some of IBM's PC keyboards have been outsourced to a French company. I sure would like to order one if anybody has any info (at least the company name for a web search). I currently use a Reveal KB-7601. It's the bottom of the line in mechanical keyboards at around $75 new. I does have one advantage, it has the proper tactile click while the mechanical sound is muted just enough not to wake those who sleep instead of code. ;) -- Jon A. Lambert If I'd known it was harmless, I would have killed it myself. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00057" HREF="msg00057.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> caliban#darklock,com (Caliban Tiresias Darklock)</LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00109" HREF="msg00109.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> coder#ibm,net</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00116.html">[MUD-Dev] Mud governance</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00119.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] games gender bias (Re: Affecting the world)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00109.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00048.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00117"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00117"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Turn-based Combat</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00036" HREF="msg00036.html">Turn-based Combat</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 05 Oct 1997, 06:46 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00034" HREF="msg00034.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Todd Lair <a href="mailto:tlair#mailzone,com">tlair#mailzone,com</a>, Sat 04 Oct 1997, 16:48 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00057" HREF="msg00057.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 06 Oct 1997, 20:33 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00109" HREF="msg00109.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 14 Oct 1997, 20:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Usability and interface and who the hell is su</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 18 Oct 1997, 01:15 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00048" HREF="msg00048.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Sun 05 Oct 1997, 20:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00106" HREF="msg00106.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 14 Oct 1997, 18:51 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00049" HREF="msg00049.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Sun 05 Oct 1997, 21:00 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00050" HREF="msg00050.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Sun 05 Oct 1997, 22:13 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>