<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie --> <!--X-From-R13: Rreevpx Xbarf <thagureNbayvar1.zntahf1.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 04:13:59 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.SV4.3.93.971106225808.15505A-100000@online1 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 345F97D3.7F24#kusd,kusd.edu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00248.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00250.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00237.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00253.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00249">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00249">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00249">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Derrick Jones <<A HREF="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:19:23 -0500 (EST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Sauron wrote: > [snip] > > More generally, what is the distinction between softcode and hardcode? > [snip] > > abilities. The real tradeoff is w/ hardcode you increase your cpu usage, > and softcode it chews up your ram. Most good mu*s tend to have a balance > of both types of programmed systems. Does this tradeoff stem from the nature of softcode/hardcode? I've noted that the two most widely used examples (LP for softcode and DIKU for hardcode) show this to be the case, but I had always assumed that it was (flaws in the???) the core server designs that caused this phenomenon, and that they were accomplished in hard/soft code to be purely coincidental. For example, a quick glance of DIKU-clone source shows that 80-90% of the CPU drain comes from the pulse/heartbeat/tic system where everything is polled for continous update. (disclaimer: that isn't meant as a flame of the source...I actually started with a gutted Circle many moons ago, but the first thing I did was strip that system and put in an event-driven one, which seemed to speed things up conciderably) On the other side of the coin, I could see where an eternal language could increase the RAM overhead (caching the language itself, as well as code-bloat from having multiple people generating generally unoptimized code), but a well managed system would minimize this and the bloat would be negligable. Any thoughts? Gunther </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00237" HREF="msg00237.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Sauron <dlove#kusd,kusd.edu></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00248.html">Re: OT: threading list messages</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00250.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] A flamewar startingpoint.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00237.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00253.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00249"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00249"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00234" HREF="msg00234.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Tue 04 Nov 1997, 10:47 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00236" HREF="msg00236.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 04 Nov 1997, 17:44 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00239" HREF="msg00239.html">Sorry...</A></strong>, Bjarni Norddahl <a href="mailto:btn#dark,x.dtu.dk">btn#dark,x.dtu.dk</a>, Wed 05 Nov 1997, 08:46 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00237" HREF="msg00237.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></strong>, Sauron <a href="mailto:dlove#kusd,kusd.edu">dlove#kusd,kusd.edu</a>, Tue 04 Nov 1997, 21:47 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00249" HREF="msg00249.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></strong>, Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Fri 07 Nov 1997, 04:13 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00253" HREF="msg00253.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 09 Nov 1997, 04:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00257" HREF="msg00257.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] newbie</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 09 Nov 1997, 13:10 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Idea: Hive-mind monster</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Sun 02 Nov 1997, 01:47 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00199" HREF="msg00199.html">Re: DESIGN: ECONOMICS: Money Supply</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sat 01 Nov 1997, 23:26 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>