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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev]  META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Brandon J. Rickman" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Adam Wiggins &lt;nightfall#user1,inficad.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;[coder#ibm,net:]
&gt;&gt; Deduced reasons:  Partly it is as trivial as vocabulary (we have evolved
&gt;&gt; our own terminology and connotation frame), partly it is reference frame
&gt;
&gt;People are getting confused by constant references to Bubba? :)

Making common vocabulary and references clearer would be useful, but
might lead to heated discussion of "What is a spoof?" and
"Could the Great God GooGoo create a rock so big he couldn't life it?"

&gt;&gt; (we all have a fairly decent idea of each other's projects, design goals,
&gt;&gt; and base approaches), and partly it is sheer discussion history
&gt;&gt; (scenarios, named topics, etc).  
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&gt;I think that's the most important thing.  As I mentioned above - people
&gt;hop in and start talking about a subject that we beat into the ground
&gt;just two months ago.  In some cases, it's the same thread - just that
&gt;thread has already evolved into a more complex topic.  They, of course,
&gt;look at it and come up with the same things that were broached earlier
&gt;in the thread.  I tend to ignore those posts, which I suppose doesn't
&gt;much help, but I don't feel like repeating myself (or worse, repeating
&gt;others).

I think anyone building off of certain test scenarios would be happy
to have those scenarios as part of some reference, FAQ or otherwise.
You can often tell who wrote a scenario based on the character names
they use, that kind of information might be useful as well.  I don't
know how JC might be planning on distributing this info, it is likely
to become large and unwieldly despite the best intentions.

Here is the kind of information I would be interested in sharing, is
this too much, too vague?  Should I just put it all in my .sig?

[my secret agenda -- SPOILER!]
Brandon Rickman - currently a graduate student, University of California
Los Angeles, department of design. ashes#zennet,com

Favorite characters: Shoehorn, Motch
Favorite scenarios:
- [Shoehorn and the rabbits]
Favorite concepts:
- Big Universe: a game world so large all the characters would be unable
to cumulatively explore it in less than ten days.
- randomness versus indeterminacy
- storytelling should be concerned with what the player is interested
in, not with simulation.
- decaying details

more info: http://...
[end of my secret agenda]

I'm running out of steam, the point is that my terminology can be very
particular about certain things, like "details", and if you [mis]used
a certain word or phrase you would be very likely to get a response
from me.

- Brandon Rickman - ashes#zennet,com -
While I have never previously found a need for a .sig, this
may be considered one for the purposes of this list



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<LI><strong><A NAME="00902" HREF="msg00902.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Circumstances &amp; Situations</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00520" HREF="msg00520.html">Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong>, 
Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Thu 04 Dec 1997, 02:15 GMT
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Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 11 Dec 1997, 17:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00707" HREF="msg00707.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 11 Dec 1997, 22:51 GMT
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