<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries --> <!--X-From-R13: Zvat <Y.Z.Zb-94Nfghqrag.yobeb.np.hx> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:24:18 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.SOL.3.96.971208131851.11462B-100000@sun-cc203 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199712080816.BAA20519#user2,inficad.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00527.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00529.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00527.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00553.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00528">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00528">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00528">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Ling <<A HREF="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:28:31 +0000 (GMT)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Adam Wiggins wrote: > In this context the map becomes more of a visual tool for brainstorming > than an actual piece of geography. (Indeed, fantasy maps are renowned > for being completely unlike real geography..) You draw up a rough map, > imagine impressive geographical features (mountain ranges, waterfalls, > large bodies of water, swamps, plains, forests, caves..), and plunk down > your civilizations-in-the-rough. From there it becomes easy to imagine > the titanic battles that occured as borders got pushed forth and back, > alliances and neutralities that formed due to position (think Switzerland), > locations for important religious or magical structures, and so on... Yep, this is my usual method of creating a new world. Splat some ink on paper and randomly dot some starting villages. The rest, as they say, is history. ;) A more refined version involves feeding it all into a computer to simulate geography, warts and all. But really, I think it is quite an overkill going through all that coding effort to evolve a single map. Then, opinions differ. A starting map is also useful when recruiting builders to extend the mud. A unified picture helps maintain consistancy, rather than letting builders grow your world, the builders flesh out what is already in the mud. The bit I think is iffy is making up in theme reasons why a particular route is blocked. Gonna have to refer to DartMUD. :) DartMUD uses two scales to represent its world. The normal room doodahs and a big hex system for the wilderness (each hex is so large that you can walk through a hex and miss a city). This system would be quite a cool way of having future expansions. There is no need to hide the fact that a dungeon hasn't been coded yet. When it has been coded, just plonk it in a hex and give it a concealment rating. | Ling Lo, freshwater fish (cod variant) _O_O_ EEE, Loughborough University, England Another 'Screemer! </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00553" HREF="msg00553.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Jon A. 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Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 09 Dec 1997, 04:03 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00560" HREF="msg00560.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: News from the front</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Tue 09 Dec 1997, 08:15 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00523" HREF="msg00523.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#online-alchemy,com">mike#online-alchemy,com</a>, Mon 08 Dec 1997, 02:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00527" HREF="msg00527.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Mon 08 Dec 1997, 08:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00528" HREF="msg00528.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Mon 08 Dec 1997, 13:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00553" HREF="msg00553.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 09 Dec 1997, 06:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00687" HREF="msg00687.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 11 Dec 1997, 07:20 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00879" HREF="msg00879.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 19 Dec 1997, 17:59 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00508" HREF="msg00508.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Seminal Designs, WAS: Alignment</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Sat 06 Dec 1997, 00:04 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>