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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Guilds &amp; Politics</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Maddy &lt;<A HREF="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Koster, Raph wrote:

&gt; On Wednesday, December 10, 1997 10:43 AM, Stephen 
&gt; Zepp[SMTP:zoran#enid,com] wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;A description of the system in place in UO:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Umm, ever consider black marks/suspicions, and "righteous combat"?
&gt; 
&gt; Sure, we've considered them. Basically, every extension to this system 
&gt; has to be unabusable in any way, or it doesn't go in. Define an "act 
&gt; of war" in such a way that requires no admin intervention whatsoever, 
&gt; and that is capable of limiting the freedom from notoriety effects to 
&gt; only members of the opposing army, wherein said army can ONLY be 
&gt; joined by those who have valid cause to join it... you get the idea. 
&gt; It's quickly much tougher than it seems.

Well if you take a large band of "fighters" as being an "army" and assume 
that an "act of war" is combat between two such "armies" then I don't see 
any way that it could be abused (at least not at this moment in time).  
Then if a band of raiders attacks a village, it'll be an army against a 
group of villagers and hence the army would gain noteriety?

&gt; &gt;  If I
&gt; &gt; attack to defend my home/possessions, I'm probably gonna receive 
&gt; _more_
&gt; &gt; positive noteriety,
&gt; 
&gt; Unless you make your living by luring people into your house and 
&gt; butchering them...

Well that would imply you have attacked first, rather than the "invader" 
of your home having attacked you or stolen from you.

Maddy

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00848" HREF="msg00848.html">Seems rather quiet</A></strong>, 
Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Wed 17 Dec 1997, 05:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00853" HREF="msg00853.html">Re: Seems rather quiet</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 08:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00846" HREF="msg00846.html">Describe module</A></strong>, 
Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Tue 16 Dec 1997, 20:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00871" HREF="msg00871.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Describe module</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 19:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00839" HREF="msg00839.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Guilds &amp; Politics</A></strong>, 
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Mon 15 Dec 1997, 17:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00866" HREF="msg00866.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Guilds &amp; Politics</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 15:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00835" HREF="msg00835.html">META: what's with these vcard.vcf attachments?</A></strong>, 
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Mon 15 Dec 1997, 13:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00870" HREF="msg00870.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  META: what's with these vcard.vcf attachments?</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 19:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00818" HREF="msg00818.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	Introductions and</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 14 Dec 1997, 18:11 GMT
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