<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG --> <!--X-From-R13: fvybivpNfepr.ue ([vebfyni Evybivp) --> <!--X-Date: from scipio.globecomm.net [207.51.48.12] by in3.ibm.net id 867921830.106076-1 Thu Jul 3 09:23:50 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199707030923.LAA00416#regoc,srce.hr --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199706302256.PAA14520#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00062.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00064.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00059.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00064.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00063">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00063">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00063">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</A> (Miroslav Silovic)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:23:43 +0200 (MET DST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > In <199706230514.TAA02643#mail,pixi.com>, on 06/22/97 > at 10:21 PM, "Huibai" <ashen#pixi,com> said: > > >- hiding all statistics. (HP,skills,levels,etc.) > > health is a graphic % bar. they've got no idea > > what their absolute points are, only how hurt > > out of the whole. > > This loses the ugliness of numbers while avoiding the chancy > interpretation of adjectives (just how hurt is "in agony" as vs > "moaning with pain"?) Essentially you now have a percentage value. > The problem which it chares with all the other general systems is in > evaluating what 20% damage (or whatever) really means in game > functionality. > > ie given a stat at XXX level, what can and can't I do because of that > stat? Assuming that you insist on keeping linear scaler. Now let's tackle your example from another viewpoint: let's completely ditch the idea of hit points. Instead, give attributes to each would: pain level, bleeding level, location on the body, exposure of the flesh. Use only discrete values for each: low, medium, high for bleed/pain/exposure. Then expand the idea of location to include not just torso/limbs, but specific organs and muscle groups. Now keep lists of the wounds. Result is that you can TELL that player can't do something because his biceps is hurting too much because of the would he got from serrated orcish sword, which while nonvital hurts like heck and tends to reopen and bleed. And healers would have to treat each wound separately, applying procedure according to the wound. Of course, this would enlarge the player objects, but... it'd do so far less than tracking who-knows-who that some LPMUDs do. Incidentally, this wound-tracking system has an advantage that player would have VERY specific idea that his character is in pain, and would think twice before getting into any sort of combat - remember, while you don't have to die, incapacitating wound can kick you out of the loop for days. Also, I think that player should /not/ necessarily know whether his character can or can not do something until he tries it - you don't know in RL, either. Miro </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00064" HREF="msg00064.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Adam Wiggins <nightfall#user2,inficad.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00062.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00064.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00059.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00064.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00063"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00063"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00044" HREF="msg00044.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 00:54 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00060" HREF="msg00060.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 15:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00043" HREF="msg00043.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Wed 02 Jul 1997, 23:43 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 15:10 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00063" HREF="msg00063.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 16:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00064" HREF="msg00064.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 18:31 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00070" HREF="msg00070.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 04 Jul 1997, 03:25 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00000" HREF="msg00000.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Nation of shopkeepers</A></strong>, Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Tue 01 Jul 1997, 14:11 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00001" HREF="msg00001.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Nation of shopkeepers</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 01 Jul 1997, 21:53 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>