<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Focus (Was: Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo) --> <!--X-From-R13: [ngg Qunggreyrl <ebbgNzcp.qla.zy.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:14:14 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.970927110956.157B-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Marcel-1.26-0926182345-0b0Ky&5#Gryphon,knoware.nl --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Focus (Was: Usability and interface and who the</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01506.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01508.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01502.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01453.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01507">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01507">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01507">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Focus (Was: Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Focus (Was: Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 11:12:27 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:neddy#itl,net">neddy#itl,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Marian Griffith wrote: > On Thu 25 Sep, Jon A. Lambert wrote: > > > On 24 Sep 97 at 9:59, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: > > > > Note that you would not actually need a fishing skill or musical instrument > > > skill for either of the above. I agree, musicians are a nice thing, they > > > contribute vastly to the enjoyment of the world; but why do we actually > > > need game mechanics to handle it? > > > I can easily imagine an entire game geared around musical talents. > > Where magic and combat are inextricably linked to music and musical > > instruments. Methinks I recall several fantasy novels where this was > > the case? > > True. But you can equally well imagine a game that is not geared around > combat at all. To me thinking of games as focussing on combat only is > too restrictive. Jon's point that music does not have to be superflous (although it frequently is) combines with Marian's more general allusion that a very focussed game is limited by its own nature. This is not specifically a bad thing. This is however, generally, a bad thing. Its also something a lot of us are striving to do away with, I believe - personally I have worked hard with my development team to make methods of "advancement" as general as possible. The first step being to make the term "advancement" more general, namely: Improving oneself, by way of financial, social, physical, or mental gain, or any other method as yet undisclosed. Regards, -Matt Chatterley <A HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html</A> "Smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics." -? </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01496" HREF="msg01496.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] War and language (Was: Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway?) (Was: PK Again)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01508.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? 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(Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 25 Sep 1997, 21:42 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01474" HREF="msg01474.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 06:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01424" HREF="msg01424.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 24 Sep 1997, 21:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01442" HREF="msg01442.html">[MUD-Dev] A place of my own</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 25 Sep 1997, 17:59 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>