<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: from scipio.globecomm.net [207.51.48.12] by in4.ibm.net id 867971290.44560-1 Thu Jul 3 23:08:10 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199707032304.QAA06570#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.970703092211.273D-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00075.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00077.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00061.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00079.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00076">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00076">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00076">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 03 Jul 97 16:02:39 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00061.html">Pine.LNX.3.96.970703092211.273D-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>>, on 07/03/97 at 01:36 AM, Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> said: >On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> at 08:43 AM, Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> said: >> >On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Jon A. Lambert wrote: >> As mentioned earlier I'm attempting to implement a general underlieing >> rule in the game world: >> >> Causing any effect within the game increases your own liability >> to have that same effect created on you. >Thats really, really, really evil. :) Thanks. >> The biggie here for magic is: cast a lot of fireballs on others, and >> you become increasingly subject to being hit by fireballs. Cast a lot >> of magical protection, and your own magical protections work better. >> Etc. This will of course be unstated. Mostly I've been thinking >> about doing this by manipulating probability fields, but I'd really >> like to make it a direct tie-in. >You could do it more as generalisations (ie, split magic into strands >such as elements, and have using one strand increase your liability >to spells in that strand), to make it a little subtler than being >"directly" tied to each spell - but I do have a vaguely similar rule >in mind, more a generalisation of the above. I have some general ideas in this area, (I think I posted on them earlier). The basics are making magi, energy, and everything else more or less abide by the standard conservation of energy etc laws, and the concept of anti-/non-anti quantums for each energy type. The old four elements don't actuall feature in here, my "energy types" include such as life, force, mass, magic, etc. >Magic (as a power) is very much like I inisist it to be as a literary >tool - double edged. It can be a very powerful ally, but it can also >be extremely dangerous, like a hand-grenade you've just pulled the >pin from. If you have trouble throwing it, you've got a problem. Yup. see prior postings. I'm looking at makcing the entire world ambiguous in this manner. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00079" HREF="msg00079.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00061" HREF="msg00061.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00075.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Population container</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00077.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00061.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00079.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00076"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00076"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00062" HREF="msg00062.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 15:40 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00048" HREF="msg00048.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 02:55 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00054" HREF="msg00054.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 07:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00061" HREF="msg00061.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 15:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00076" HREF="msg00076.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 04 Jul 1997, 06:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00079" HREF="msg00079.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 05 Jul 1997, 04:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00085" HREF="msg00085.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 08 Jul 1997, 00:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00056" HREF="msg00056.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 07:24 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00462" HREF="msg00462.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 11 Aug 1997, 12:36 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>