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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
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On 18 Sep 97 at 19:15, Brandon J. Rickman wrote:
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> I had a point in writing this, and that was... hmm. Ah, that the whole
> "creating new areas" thing has been done to death, and the "changing
> old areas" never happens because egos get in the way. If a player
> builds a cabin in the woods, two months later you can't just say
> "oh, the cabin was old and fell apart and these trees grew there."
> Because maybe the player burned down _all_ the trees, and sowed the
> earth with salt. And now the ego of the creator gets mad and says "I
> won't let that happen."
>
> The conclusion being: You cannot simutaneously have 1) everything
> created by hand and 2) let players be destructive.
A very good point. Both creation and destruction present "fun"
activities depending on player whims. Destruction tends to be an
short term gratification while creation a long term gratification.
Perhaps automated creation by mudpeeps can counter the destructive
efforts along with strong survival instincts. How many times can a
village be plundered and rebuilt? If it is rebuilt a high level of
hostility and aggressive defenders may be present in the second
village.
Players might begin to rely on these mud systems and tend to build
residences in existing cities, towns and villages. Those building in
wilderness areas would tend to build more elaborate defenses or have
to have a reasonable size force of men-at-arms to be successful.
They might also attract or form the core of a new village or town.
> (I would also boldly claim that stable-state systems are artificial and
> therefore hand-made.)
Yes. Methinks this has great application outside of muds too. :)
--
Jon A. Lambert
Nature comprehends the visible and invisible Creatures of the Whole
universe. What we call Nature especially, is the universal fire or
Anima Mundi, filling the whole system of the Universe, and therefore
is a Universal Agent, omnipresent, and endowed with an unerring instinct,
and manifests itself in fire and Light. It is the First creature of
Divine Omnipotence.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01254" HREF="msg01254.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 18 Sep 1997, 06:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01261" HREF="msg01261.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 18 Sep 1997, 14:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01272" HREF="msg01272.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Fri 19 Sep 1997, 07:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01268" HREF="msg01268.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01346" HREF="msg01346.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 21 Sep 1997, 22:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01358" HREF="msg01358.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Mon 22 Sep 1997, 06:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01382" HREF="msg01382.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Tue 23 Sep 1997, 07:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01392" HREF="msg01392.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Hard Sci-fi muds was Character evolution</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 23 Sep 1997, 23:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00873" HREF="msg00873.html">OT: Mortality</A></strong>,
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