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<LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley &lt;<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:26:09 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Alex Oren wrote:

[Huge snippage, including Marian]

&gt; I remember a long debate on an AD&amp;D newsgroup (when I still browsed it)
&gt; regarding the speed, range and damage of longbows and crossbows.

So do I. They seem frequent. =)
 
&gt; After what seemed to be a pretty thorough research of medieval arms, the
&gt; consensus reached was:

Yeah - I've got (some) experience with longbows (obviously modernised
ones, and not crossbows).
 
&gt; Crossbows are usually cocked with mechanical aids.

Which is one of their big plusses - you can load it, and carry it
(carefully) around loaded, without having to hang onto a string.

&gt; -&gt; Longbow firing rate is higher.

Depending on how skilled you are.

&gt; -&gt; Crossbows may be fired just as effectively by weak or injured persons.

Provided it doesn't need to be wound up, or have a particularly heavy
mechanism to wind. The *would* be more effective for the less capable
normally, I agree.
 
&gt; Crossbows have stronger pull, flatter trajectory and heavier ammo.

Yes. I imagine this is true.

&gt; -&gt; Longbows have longer range.
&gt; -&gt; Crossbows are more accurate.

I dispute this though - over longer range, I'd expect it to be easier to
strike target with a longbow, given skill, than a crossbow.

&gt; -&gt; Crossbows do more damage at short ranges (actually pierce HEAVY armor).

Definitely, plus are fireable at short to pointblank - bows are much
harder to manage due to aiming time. Longbows are I imagine, far more
lethal at long range.
 
&gt; Crossbows are much easier to use.
&gt; -&gt; It takes a long time to train a longbowman but every peasant can be
&gt;    decent with a crossbow after practicing a couple of days.

This of course is another big point.

Regards,
	-Matt Chatterley
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"Never enter an arsekicking contest with a porcupine."-Cohen The Barbarian


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00370" HREF="msg00370.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Combat messages</A></strong>, 
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 16:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00378" HREF="msg00378.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Combat messages</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 00:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00303" HREF="msg00303.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Combat</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>, 
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 13 Jul 1997, 20:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00121" HREF="msg00121.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 14 Jul 1997, 04:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00280" HREF="msg00280.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 07:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00093" HREF="msg00093.html">[MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>, 
Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Thu 10 Jul 1997, 11:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00002" HREF="msg00002.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 01 Jul 1997, 21:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00033" HREF="msg00033.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 02 Jul 1997, 15:29 GMT
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