<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore --> <!--X-From-R13: [ngg Qunggreyrl <ebbgNzcp.qla.zy.bet> --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by in10.ibm.net id 868830543.53078-1 Sun Jul 13 21:49:03 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.970713222240.613B-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 33ced5f5.599565169@neptune --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00120.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00122.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00117.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00280.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00121">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00121">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00121">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:26:09 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:neddy#itl,net">neddy#itl,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Alex Oren wrote: [Huge snippage, including Marian] > I remember a long debate on an AD&D newsgroup (when I still browsed it) > regarding the speed, range and damage of longbows and crossbows. So do I. They seem frequent. =) > After what seemed to be a pretty thorough research of medieval arms, the > consensus reached was: Yeah - I've got (some) experience with longbows (obviously modernised ones, and not crossbows). > Crossbows are usually cocked with mechanical aids. Which is one of their big plusses - you can load it, and carry it (carefully) around loaded, without having to hang onto a string. > -> Longbow firing rate is higher. Depending on how skilled you are. > -> Crossbows may be fired just as effectively by weak or injured persons. Provided it doesn't need to be wound up, or have a particularly heavy mechanism to wind. The *would* be more effective for the less capable normally, I agree. > Crossbows have stronger pull, flatter trajectory and heavier ammo. Yes. I imagine this is true. > -> Longbows have longer range. > -> Crossbows are more accurate. I dispute this though - over longer range, I'd expect it to be easier to strike target with a longbow, given skill, than a crossbow. > -> Crossbows do more damage at short ranges (actually pierce HEAVY armor). Definitely, plus are fireable at short to pointblank - bows are much harder to manage due to aiming time. Longbows are I imagine, far more lethal at long range. > Crossbows are much easier to use. > -> It takes a long time to train a longbowman but every peasant can be > decent with a crossbow after practicing a couple of days. This of course is another big point. Regards, -Matt Chatterley <A HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html</A> "Never enter an arsekicking contest with a porcupine."-Cohen The Barbarian </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> alexo#bigfoot,com (Alex Oren)</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00120.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00122.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat messages</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00280.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00121"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00121"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat messages</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00370" HREF="msg00370.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat messages</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 16:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00378" HREF="msg00378.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat messages</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 00:04 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00303" HREF="msg00303.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 08:12 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>, Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 13 Jul 1997, 20:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00121" HREF="msg00121.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 14 Jul 1997, 04:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00280" HREF="msg00280.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 07:04 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00093" HREF="msg00093.html">[MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Thu 10 Jul 1997, 11:16 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00002" HREF="msg00002.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 01 Jul 1997, 21:53 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00033" HREF="msg00033.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 02 Jul 1997, 15:29 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>