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<H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:59:55 -0400</LI>
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On Wednesday, September 17, 1997 4:54 AM, Adam Wiggins
[SMTP:nightfall#user2,inficad.com] wrote:
> [Jon L:]
> > The majority of existing muds allow one to succeed/win/maxout/havefun
> > without any imperative need for player cooperation. There also exist
>
> I know it may be a bad word on this list, but don't forget about the
> dikus! This is a fundamental problem I've always had with LPs -
cooperation
> is not only not necessary, but it's often frowned upon. On any diku
worth
> its beans, 'soloing' is usually pretty unproductive, and in many cases
there
> are puzzles, quests, and fights that you just can't get past without
large
> groups of people.
I consider the vast majority of other MUD players to be idiots or
bungholes, so I'm pretty much stuck working solo, period. On a game with
400 people logged on and at least half of them stupid, with half the rest
idling and half the rest acting like total jerks, that leaves 25 people,
and in all likelihood many of those are staff. So there are perhaps 15
decent characters I'd enjoy playing with, and chances are they're all
significantly different in level (many of them undoubtedly Avs, and all of
them already firmly entrenched in a community where they don't want much of
anything to do with people sitting around on level 10 or something) --
which means I basically *can't* play with them, even if I could convince
them that I'm a decent enough guy. Which is why my characters on MUDs tend
to get to level 30 or so and then stop, because above that it becomes very
difficult to 'solo' much of anything that can move you upward in level in
less than a week and a half of effort. This becomes tiresome, so I tend to
throw out the character. It's not like it matters whether he stays around
or not.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01177" HREF="msg01177.html">Getting players to cooperate (was Modeling spells/skills as collections of affects)</A></strong>,
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Thu 11 Sep 1997, 10:59 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01148" HREF="msg01148.html">[MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
##Make Nylander <a href="mailto:thenewt#use,usit.net">thenewt#use,usit.net</a>, Sun 07 Sep 1997, 21:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01155" HREF="msg01155.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#mare,zesoi.fer.hr">silovic#mare,zesoi.fer.hr</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 09:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01161" HREF="msg01161.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 16:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01236" HREF="msg01236.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 17 Sep 1997, 16:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01249" HREF="msg01249.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 18 Sep 1997, 02:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01319" HREF="msg01319.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 20 Sep 1997, 18:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01280" HREF="msg01280.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 19 Sep 1997, 17:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01301" HREF="msg01301.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 20 Sep 1997, 00:01 GMT
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