<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features --> <!--X-From-R13: Xrss Yrffryzna <wrssxNgrargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from fabius.globecomm.net [207.51.48.6] by in12.ibm.net id 870565210.40784-1 Sat Aug 2 23:40:10 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.2.32.19970802163936.00b055e0#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 9708021605.8a7a@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00346.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00348.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00346.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00351.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00347">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00347">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00347">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:39:36 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> hey all, I thougth i stir the pot with naother contentious issue. No offense to Raph but my playing arounf with UOL broguth thsi to mind. There is a philisophpical/practical issue in the inclusion in your MUD of "butthead" features. What I mean b ythsi are features that allow a pure butthead to annoy (or worse seriously harm) other players jsut for the cheap pwoer tip of doign so. We all knwo thes eperosnalities exist on tegh ent SO... How do you control them? Do you just avoid features that could be so abused, or do you count on oither mechanisms to keep thsi behavior in chack and if so what agurantees do you have of success? This coems to mind becaus ein my current projectw e are conciously avoiding butthead features. Thatwb as our design decision. I see a rgeat many features existant in the current UOl so obviosuly the designers there took a differnet track.. Some exampels of butthead features include.. (1) PC pickpocketing of other PCs... always upsets people. (2) Fixed tport points so that oterh can lay in wait and way-leigh unsuspecting traverls befoe they can see whats up. (3) The ability to take control of OTHERS PCs and make them do things (The Provocation skill in UOL looks at first blush particuarly nasty in this regard.) There are lost mroe but there are some starter catagories. Thoguhts, all? Raph? Whats your UOl philosophy on managing these things? Jeff Kesselman Jeff Kesselman Snr. Game Integration Engineer TEN -- The Total Entertainment Network -- www.ten.net -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/CC/E/IT/MC d+(++)@ s: a C++++$ ULSC+++(++++)$ P++(+++)$ L++ E--- W++$ N++$ o+ K--? w++(+++)$@>--- O+(++)>$ M+>$ !V PS++ PE+ Y+ PGP- t+ 5+ X- R+(++)$>+++* tv+ b+>++ DI+++ !D G e++ h r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Speak Geek! <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/geek.html">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/geek.html</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00536" HREF="msg00536.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00493" HREF="msg00493.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00353" HREF="msg00353.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Brandon Cline <brandon#sedona,net></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00351" HREF="msg00351.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA (Chris Gray)</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00346.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00348.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00346.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00351.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00347"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00347"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00330" HREF="msg00330.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 02 Aug 1997, 06:24 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00357" HREF="msg00357.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 02:56 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 02:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00346" HREF="msg00346.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></strong>, Brandon Gillespie <a href="mailto:brandon#roguetrader,com">brandon#roguetrader,com</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 04:45 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00347" HREF="msg00347.html">[MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 06:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00351" HREF="msg00351.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 15:48 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00365" HREF="msg00365.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 08:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00368" HREF="msg00368.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 13:33 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00498" HREF="msg00498.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 21:27 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>