<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: No Subject --> <!--X-From-R13: VOZS2 Dbbg <ebbgNunjnvv.rqh> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:50:01 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 97Sep15.062654hwt.826084(8)@hale2.its.Hawaii.Edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, No Subject</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01218.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01220.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01218.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01221.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01219">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01219">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01219">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>No Subject</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: mud-dev <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>From</em>: HALE2 Root <<A HREF="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:26:54 -1000</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> <local - yospe 17840>: error (Permission denied) creating "/home/8/yospe/.inbox/yospe" (this is abnormal, investigate!) ---------- Original Message ---------- external rcvdfrom relay2.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.3.56]) with SMTP from <mud-dev#null,net> to <yospe#hale2,its.Hawaii.Edu> Received: from out1.ibm.net ([165.87.194.252]) by relay2.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <370714(7)>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:23:23 -1000 Received: from shadow.null.net (slip129-37-51-155.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.51.155]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA06160 for <yospe#hawaii,edu>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:25:21 GMT Received: from shadow.null.net ( [192.1.1.1] ) by shadow.null.net (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:24:24 PST8PDT Received: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by in3.ibm.net id 874300434.228312-1 ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 05:13:54 +0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by babe.globecomm.net (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id BAA29720 for <mud-dev#null,net>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 01:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA05619 for <mud-dev#null,net>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 00:13:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <<A HREF="msg01213.html">199709150513.AAA05619#dfw-ix2,ix.netcom.com</A>> Received: from ely-oh4-50.ix.netcom.com(206.216.59.178) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005599; Mon Sep 15 00:13:18 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is <jlsysinc#popd,ix.netcom.com> Organization: JL Systems, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In-reply-to: <<A HREF="msg01178.html">3417ECA5.A94B3E68#ifi,uio.no</A>> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 23:24:16 -1000 X-OldDate: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 01:14:43 -4 Sender: mud-dev <mud-dev#null,net> X-Listname: mud-dev#null,net Reply-To: mud-dev#null,net From: "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com> To: mud-dev#null,net Subject: [MUD-Dev] MUD Design Fundamentals(Was: Looking for On 11 Sep 97 at 6:06, Ola Fosheim Grostad wrote: > Jon A. Lambert wrote: > I believe MUDs differs significantly from most applications. In most > applications, you have got some concrete problemspace as the backbone of the > system. In my view, a MUDs general problemspace mainly consists of users, a > geography and whatever interaction these users find interesting. The OOA methods I > know of, won't help a whole lot. I think OOA/D is ideally suited for this particular problem just because of mud's potentially vast and abstract problemspace. > I'm interested in THIS kind of realtime information, as well as whatever happens > on the clientside (when using an intelligent client). However I believe this > warrants some special attention in any persistent store, and that was the issue I > guess. Do you mean clients that continue to function normally while the server is down? Interesting. I have a smart client, but only in the sense that it parses/formats output and allow mouse input. Otherwise they are quite dumb. There is a very small set of static graphics that is shipped with client. My mud's time runs at a faster rate than real time and I can't really think of any reason why I would need external inputs into the server other than the user clients and my database. -- Jon A. Lambert If I'd known it was harmless, I would have killed it myself. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01218.html">No Subject</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01220.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Modeling spells/skills as collections of affects</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01218.html">No Subject</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01221.html">No Subject</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01219"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01219"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">No Subject</A></strong>, Maddog Worlds <a href="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</a>, Sun 17 Aug 1997, 18:42 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01211" HREF="msg01211.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Sun 14 Sep 1997, 19:03 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01217" HREF="msg01217.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01218" HREF="msg01218.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01219" HREF="msg01219.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:50 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01221" HREF="msg01221.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:56 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01222" HREF="msg01222.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 17:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00643" HREF="msg00643.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fuzion - Game System</A></strong>, Frank Crowell <a href="mailto:frankc#maddog,com">frankc#maddog,com</a>, Sun 17 Aug 1997, 18:32 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00639" HREF="msg00639.html">Fuzion - Game System</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 17 Aug 1997, 17:16 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>