<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:34:31 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199708121733.KAA24779#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.GSO.3.96.970803152545.27011J-100000@dryslwyn --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00490.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00492.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00354.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00509.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00491">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00491">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00491">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 12 Aug 97 10:28:54 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00354.html">Pine.GSO.3.96.970803152545.27011J-100000@dryslwyn</A>>, on 08/03/97 at 11:27 AM, Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com> said: >On Tue, 1 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> In <33bc2b5e.28988475#relay,mnsinc.com>, on 06/26/97 >> at 08:59 AM, caliban#darklock,com (Caliban Tiresias Darklock) said: >> >cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA (Chris Gray) wrote: >> >I made this exact same observation earlier in the discussion, along >> >with the associated mention that this precludes the use of spaces in >> >names. No response was ever made on the matter. >> >> One approach is to make command parsing a question of simple and >> uniform expression evaluation. Make the rules simple and easy to >> learn, and the rest should be almost automatic. >Another approach is to model it as closely as possible on natural >English, to the extent that typing in >prompt> how do i fight >should bring up the appropriate help section. I don't see that this is an exception to the concept of having user commands follow a simple and uniform expression syntax. >> The simplist approach is defining that an ID string is a single >> continuous string of non-white space characters, or a string of any >> characters enclosed by quotes. Its ugly, but it works. >shoving quotes and equals signs into the syntax are anathema to me. Agreed. I'll admit exceptions however for human readability and disambiguity. >> More workable, but tougher to implement is automatic attempted parsing >> of names as the command is parsed. There are obvious ambiguity traps, >> but it can be done. The rule then becomes: an ID string is defined as >> the shortest possible sequence of tokens in a given command which can >> be used to uniquely identify a an indentity given the command's >> context. A lot more runtime work, you'll need ambiguity trapping, but >> it also works and works predictably. >so long as you don't have too many addressable players and monsters >in the game, the pruning and disambiguation is not all that hard. >It's worth it though. The fact that I don't have a global namespace really helps here. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00354" HREF="msg00354.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00490.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00492.html">NPC Ecologies [was 'New to this mailing list']</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00354.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00509.html">[MUD-Dev] common server design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00491"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00491"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00018" HREF="msg00018.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 02 Jul 1997, 04:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00080" HREF="msg00080.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 06 Jul 1997, 00:59 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00086" HREF="msg00086.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 08 Jul 1997, 02:53 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00354" HREF="msg00354.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 01:18 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00491" HREF="msg00491.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 17:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00509" HREF="msg00509.html">[MUD-Dev] common server design</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 04:54 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00015" HREF="msg00015.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] noise</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 02 Jul 1997, 03:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00035" HREF="msg00035.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] noise</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 02 Jul 1997, 15:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00013" HREF="msg00013.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 02 Jul 1997, 03:25 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>