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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 25 Aug 97 11:25:53 -0700</LI>
<LI><em>Reply-to</em>: Geoff Riley <<A HREF="mailto:saul#arcturus,demon.co.uk">saul#arcturus,demon.co.uk</A>></LI>
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<PRE>
The quality of the our efforts as actual *games* has recently started
itching me. The following comment taken from the Shades mailing list
(unattributed for now) from a couple old old-time Shades players
particularly:
--<cut>--
> >Having now looked around a few other muds, I notice that it's fairly
> >uncommon to allow attacking of other players. (Or I've just been picking
> >the wrong muds [grin])
>
> Most others ones i've tried are RPG's and I hate RPG's, the only
> exception is MUD2, the best and based on the original MUG, MUD...Not
> paying 15 squid a month to play it thou!
I've not come across any pay ones (other than paying BT for all of
them); but yes, they do all seem to be role play: some being very
strict indeed. (One I tried you had to apply by email with the name
you wanted to use... dunno if that's common; but it seems a little
OTT... I suppose it would stop names like 'Death', 'Girl', 'Bear' and
so on... [grin]) --<cut>--
For the non-Brits out there, OTT == Over The Top, a term denoting that
something is excessive to the point of idiocy or americanism.
Shades is a very simple game, which I suspect is worthy of more study.
It makes no pretense of offering an immersive environment. It is
unabashedly a bit of a Monty Haul, but a blood soaked and chaotic one
(no perma death unfortunately). It makes no pretense of grand claims,
or of even being anything other than downright mediocre in terms of
MUD design. It has no concept of a containers (of being able to put
things in things, or of things being in other things), the parser is
extremely primitive, there's no internal language or re-programming
anything but the server itself, it did offer perhaps the first example
of templatised area creation (very primitive as well), all movement is
done under the covers by teleporting from room to room...etc.
The big thing is that it is extremely playable. Amazingly playable.
I've taken MUD-newbies and dropped them in Shades to have them
enjoyably playing inside of 5 minutes. It has all the frills done
wrong or so poorly as to be laughable. It has gotten the basics of a
Game Design down wonderfully however.
--
J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Character evolution</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01098" HREF="msg01098.html">[MUD-Dev] Character evolution</A></strong>,
##Make Nylander <a href="mailto:thenewt#use,usit.net">thenewt#use,usit.net</a>, Thu 04 Sep 1997, 21:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01153" HREF="msg01153.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character evolution</A></strong>,
Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 06:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01166" HREF="msg01166.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character evolution</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 09 Sep 1997, 06:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00724" HREF="msg00724.html">Inebriation</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 26 Aug 1997, 00:06 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00721" HREF="msg00721.html">Comments on MUDs from Shadists</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 18:43 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00712" HREF="msg00712.html">DESIGN: R-Trees (fwd)</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sun 24 Aug 1997, 22:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00787" HREF="msg00787.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] DESIGN: R-Trees (fwd)</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 28 Aug 1997, 00:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00701" HREF="msg00701.html">[MUD-Dev] Character evolution</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 21 Aug 1997, 17:52 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00699" HREF="msg00699.html">Re:</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 21 Aug 1997, 16:54 GMT
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