<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Character evolution --> <!--X-From-R13: Xrss Yrffryzna <wrssxNgrargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:13:39 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.2.32.19970831141534.008dc100#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199708312030.QAA08132#polaris,net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Character evolution</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00916.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00918.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00915.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01023.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00917">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00917">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00917">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Character evolution</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Character evolution</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 14:15:34 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> At 01:46 PM 8/31/97 PST8PDT, Travis Casey wrote: >Exactly. As someone (I forget who) once pointed out, the few Western >movies which tried to actually portray the American West as it really >was in the 1800's were commercial failures. The ones which did well >were those that used characters with modern attitudes in an ostensibly >"Western" setting. Back in college in one of m film classes I read a slightly different take on thsi thast I found very convincing: To wit: The Western is Myth Making. The westerens that as you say are popualr, are basically secular morality plays with greek-myth proportion heroes and villians. Its worth noting by the way the two most standard errors in a western gunfight scene. The six guns of the old west had very large, (relatively) slow bullets and no accuracy to speak of. They rarely hit what they were aimed at but if you were hit by one it knocked you on your ass and you likely WERENT getting back up. There is t least one recorded case of a duel where the two gunfighters unloaded two six guns a reice without EVER hitting each other., The one thing that IS true about ten scene as represented is al ltyhe bystsnaders diving cover. Thatw as because with thsoe damn guns they were as likely top get hit as anythign else. I researcehd this when I ran a Boot Hill campaign many years ago. On the subejct of Myth making, I've also read a VERY covnincing article that analyzes the Godzilla series as modern may myth making and a taming oh the atom bomb as created by the only society ever to directly experience the effects of one. The interesting thing about it IMO is the way Godzilla changes to fit changes in Japanese society over the period of production of the movies. The first Godzilla film is Godzilla, radicoative mutant monster destroys every5thing (stand in for the bomb itself) until laid low in a comfortingmanner by modern japanese science. By the LAST movie Godzilla is the GOOD guy defending Japan from an evil monster spawned from pollution (this parallels the rise of Atomic power plants in japan.) Most critical film analysis is total BS, but these ewer both pretty good arguments. JK Jeff Kesselman Snr. 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