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<LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI>
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On Sat 19 Jul, Matt Chatterley wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
| at 12:37 PM, Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> said:
| >On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
| >Weapons which
| >immobilise the opponent temporarily are often overlooked in mud
| >combat (perhaps because it doesnt fit the romantic
| >one-on-one-with-swords-clashing notion?)
> It's definitely worth throwing the more romantic notions out the window
> and considering things from another perspective - for instance, in group
> fights with unmounted troops against mounted knights, surrounding him, and
> dismounting him however you can, to bash him to death on the ground.
Of course the very last thing an ordinary soldier would want to do is
-kill- that knight. Soldiers were poor and knights typically owned a
significant piece of real estate, including the people living on that
Knights were worth a lot in ransom, enough to ensure a soldier that he
never had to fight for a living again. The very unromantic truth about
medieval combat is that not many people got killed in it, and that not
many people actually took part in it.
> The idea of a cloak as an entanglement weapon is certainly valid, and
> quite a nice 'streetfighting' trick so to term it, amongst other things a
> safer way to disarm an opponent with a sharp weapon such as a knife, or at
> least to distract him from his weapon for the time it takes you to take
> action.
The problem with muds is that it is far too powerfull to do this, or it
is impractical. In a way the bash command on the typical mud does exact-
ly this. Except that it hardly affects the ordinary fight, it only makes
it impossible for spellcasters to do anything. Fighters do not rely on
commands so they are not much affected by being unable to have a command
executed for one or two rounds. Were bash to affect ordinary combat also
then it would be too powerfull a command by far.
> Definitely, and it falls nicely into this category of 'slightly mucky
> tricks and tactics'. Other things often overlooked.. hmm.. the use of the
> pommel on a large (two-handed?) sword? Nothing really comes to mind right
> now.
Throwing sand. Shiny objects on your armour to blind the opponent.
Stepping down hard on a foot with your iron plated boots probably
counts as devious trick too.
Marian
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00198" HREF="msg00198.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00201" HREF="msg00201.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 03:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00206" HREF="msg00206.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 20 Jul 1997, 02:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00209" HREF="msg00209.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 20 Jul 1997, 08:27 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00210" HREF="msg00210.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 20 Jul 1997, 14:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00187" HREF="msg00187.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00183" HREF="msg00183.html">[MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></strong>,
Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 23:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00160" HREF="msg00160.html">Source data on Crossbows</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 17 Jul 1997, 08:52 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00149" HREF="msg00149.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 17 Jul 1997, 00:18 GMT
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