<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people --> <!--X-From-R13: Uert [hag <tertNhav-pbea.qrzba.pb.hx> --> <!--X-Date: from stimpy.globecomm.net [207.51.48.4] by in4.ibm.net id 870133318.49182-1 Mon Jul 28 23:41:58 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.91.970728154058.64V-100000@uni-corn.demon.co.uk --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199707280030.TAA29925@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00256.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00258.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00253.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00272.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00257">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00257">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00257">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Greg Munt <<A HREF="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:18:20 +0100 (GMT+0100)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Jon A. Lambert wrote: > I am confused on one point. Is the list server the primary exchange > point for those developing your mud as well as this other mud you have > severed ties with? If so, this would seem to be very counter-productive > and the political strife would continue to be a source of problems. The list is solely for the development of my game. Everyone and anyone is welcome to subscribe (including those involved in the running and development of the other mud), but anything other than game and web design issues is considered noise. > It might be better to run your own development list. In addition > Hubai's (John G.) suggestion seems rather good. I suggested that due to apathy, I was considering shutting Frontiers down. 'Amusing' replies such as "I'm not saying anything :)" were received, and I went on a major bender, explaining precisely why I thought Frontiers should/shouldn't stay open. It is probably worth pointing out that only the non-apathetic subscribers have bothered to post anything in that thread. > Another problem may > be that if your player base and/or staff consists of former players and > staff on the ex-mud, they may not share the same vision as you do. > "The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend" or something like > that. I think you have written some insights that this might be the > case. This is definitely the case. They want a 'better-run TCZ' (the other mud is called 'The Chatting Zone') rather than Frontiers. > One thing you could do that may be helpful. Prepare a detailed vision > statement (mission statement, if you like) on both your vision of the > server's capabilities and the game/mud theme. (Warning: see the movie > "Jerry Mcguire" for worst case side-effects *grin*) > Make it a very visible item and primarily YOUR vision. This is a major problem :) I want the game to be attractive to all player types (using Bartle's JOMR paper as a model - have any other similar studies been made in this area?), so how, how, how can I delimit the scope of this? There is also the danger of the thing becoming 'four muds in one' rather than a single world... > I happen to believe design by committee is a very difficult task and made > even more difficult using specification by committee. Too true. My violent opposition to the pseudo-democracy of TCZ was one of the major reasons for my removal from its administration. Hence the 'Corrupt Dictator' label... :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ More isn't better; less is more. Scratch muds are stock muds, without the life experience. The morons aren't taking over the community - the morons *are* the community! </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00272" HREF="msg00272.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00253" HREF="msg00253.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00256.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00258.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00253.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00272.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00257"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00257"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00594" HREF="msg00594.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 01:21 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00255" HREF="msg00255.html">OT: Server Web Site</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 28 Jul 1997, 03:56 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00254" HREF="msg00254.html">Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 28 Jul 1997, 03:34 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00253" HREF="msg00253.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 28 Jul 1997, 00:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00257" HREF="msg00257.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Tue 29 Jul 1997, 06:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00272" HREF="msg00272.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 00:32 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00248" HREF="msg00248.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Stories?</A></strong>, Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Sun 27 Jul 1997, 20:25 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00252" HREF="msg00252.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Stories?</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 27 Jul 1997, 22:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00263" HREF="msg00263.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Stories?</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 29 Jul 1997, 13:46 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>