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<LI><em>From</em>: "Brandon Van Every" <<A HREF="mailto:vanevery#blarg,net">vanevery#blarg,net</A>></LI>
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> From: Jon A. Lambert <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com>
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> Solve all the equations for all axis and one would be a master alchemist
> and know all the laws of the alchemy.
But what is this going to "buy" a player? It seems that this is a
satisfying way to spend one's time only if one LOVES to do math AND doesn't
get enough mathematical exercise in a day. I've got news for you. If you
go get a job in 3d computer graphics, you can spend a fair amount of time
doing math and get paid real $$$$ for it. To the point of getting sick of
it. This is one of those areas where I think one's satisfactions in life
really change after you get out of college. At some point I discovered
that solving equations and accumulating wealth/power in wargames was pretty
much equivalent to the mental activity required for my job. And after
doing the latter for 40+ hours a week, I ceased to be interested in more
such mental exercise in my free time.
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> > This sounds rather complicated to me. Isn't there a way to do this
> > without math?
It would be nice if the INTERFACE to the system didn't require a knowledge
of math. i.e. that one could easily and empirically deduce properties of
the system - heuristics if you will - without having to have a background
even in algebra. This would be appealing to non-mathematicians, and even
for the mathematically inclined I think it would come closer to providing
"instant gratification." "Instant gratification" is the pleasure of
exerting a bit of effort, and then not getting stuck with something that
doesn't work. Exploration of the system then becomes a pleasant romp in
the countryside, rather than a tedious exercise in head-banging. Systems
without instant gratification have about the pleasure value of a debugging
session, which for me is none, owing to the head-banging component. Once
again, I'd prefer to get paid to debug stuff and bang my head against the
wall.
>
> Yikes, it would be nice but it's all these dang computers understand. :)
Um, computers don't understand math. They only understand 1's and 0's.
:-)
Well ok they've got FPU's and all, but you find out pretty quick that they
only understand discrete approximations to math.
Cheers,
Brandon J. Van Every <vanevery#blarg,net> DEC Commodity Graphics
<A HREF="http://www.blarg.net/~vanevery">http://www.blarg.net/~vanevery</A> Windows NT Alpha OpenGL
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00310" HREF="msg00310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 14:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00332" HREF="msg00332.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 02 Aug 1997, 14:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00334" HREF="msg00334.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00339" HREF="msg00339.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 00:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00341" HREF="msg00341.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00342" HREF="msg00342.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00344" HREF="msg00344.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00345" HREF="msg00345.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></strong>,
Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 03:45 GMT
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