<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:49:24 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199708112047.NAA29250#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 33DF968D.41C67EA6#iname,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00465.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00467.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00294.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00291.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00466">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00466">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00466">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 11 Aug 97 13:40:18 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00294.html">33DF968D.41C67EA6#iname,com</A>>, on 07/30/97 at 07:43 PM, Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com> said: >clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> >> In <<A HREF="msg00242.html">33D8DED4.41C67EA6#iname,com</A>>, on 07/25/97 >> at 10:15 AM, Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com> said: >> >> >clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> >> How do you handle broadcasting state changes to other objects? >> >> >Post an event to call the notification method on each interested >> >object. >> >> How do you know who is interested? Where is that data maintained, and >> how does it get there? Does the notification enclude what changed, or >> just that there was a change? >Object A that wants to know when object B changes asks B to tell A >when B changes. B then saves a reference to A in the internal list >of objects that want to know about changes to B (this list is >maintained solely by B). This is the model I use. >Currently, my design states that the >notification of change will also include what was changed in B. I don't do this currently, tho I suspect I could as a side-effect of moving all the primitives (attributes. methods etc) to their own storage units. >All this notification is only done once an watched object has >successfully committed, otherwise failed commits would result in >wrongful notification of change. Correct. >At the moment, I think the only entities that care about that >internal list in B is B and the DB, though it may instead be up to >the Executor (JCL's term--I'm haven't entirely hashed out that part >of the design yet) to notify the objects in that list of changes to >B. For me the watch list is read by the executor as part of the C&C and events are logged (one per object) to send the I_HAVE_CHANGED message to each of the watchers. >For the record, object methods appear the same to the DB as object >attributes. Ditto. >Only the VM cares if the contents of an attribute actually >represent an attribute or a method. None of this is gospel in my >design yet, so I fully expect you to blast some holes in it :> To prevent the case where Bubba reprograms step A of a logical sequence, and then reprograms step B to match, which opens the possibility for a Boffo to step in and execute step A before C is properly changed (leaving him in a logically inconsistant state), I will be having the function of an editor object being able to edit and commit changes to multiple objects in one C&C. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00294" HREF="msg00294.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00465.html">New to this mailing list</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00467.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00294.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00291.html">C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00466"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00466"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00235" HREF="msg00235.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 25 Jul 1997, 08:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 26 Jul 1997, 00:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00278" HREF="msg00278.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 06:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00294" HREF="msg00294.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 02:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00466" HREF="msg00466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 11 Aug 1997, 20:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00291" HREF="msg00291.html">C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#petra,zesoi.fer.hr">silovic#petra,zesoi.fer.hr</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 22:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00312" HREF="msg00312.html">C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#mare,zesoi.fer.hr">silovic#mare,zesoi.fer.hr</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 23:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00329" HREF="msg00329.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 02 Aug 1997, 06:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00331" HREF="msg00331.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#petra,zesoi.fer.hr">silovic#petra,zesoi.fer.hr</a>, Sat 02 Aug 1997, 06:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>