<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd) --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:22:39 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199708122121.OAA06814#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.GSO.3.96.970803191909.11347G-100000@dryslwyn --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00496.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00498.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00355.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00514.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00497">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00497">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00497">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 12 Aug 97 14:10:51 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00355.html">Pine.GSO.3.96.970803191909.11347G-100000@dryslwyn</A>>, on 08/03/97 at 11:39 AM, Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com> said: >On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> In <Pine.GSO.3.96.970628042112.7843O-100000@tay>, on 06/27/97 >> at 08:36 PM, Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com> said: >> >> >On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> Precisely. Just what is there for a player to do once he's made Wiz >> on a standard MUD other than thumb twiddle or torture the local >> inhabitants? >Nothing. For that player, the game is over. That is NOT to say that >it's badly designed, nor that this isn't a huge problem. I spot an >assumed orthodoxy here. Yes, much the like assumed orthodoxy that MUD users want to play heros. Nightmare provides a perfect case in point to demonstrate the fallacy of that one. >Which "Legend" is everyone referring to? mud.aus.sig.net 9999 >Ok. But it's really depressing for us scratchers to have to hear >unmodified Diku being passed off as original. It's demoralising. Thou art a dino. >> To an extent Bartle was right: don't worry about losing off players, >> there are always more. The playing population refreshes itself, >> fractionally, every year. (I'd be *really* interested in a study on >> what that fraction was.) As the years pass that fraction accumulates >Hmmm ... I smell the festering seeds of my next controversial >research paper here ... :) Fertilise, fertilise, fertilise. >> >In recent discussions with EdFromO... > >He's now referring to "its/it's" as "Advanced You're". I'll confess to knowing and largely ignoring the difference as my own minor kick towards correcting Englush structure. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00538" HREF="msg00538.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00514" HREF="msg00514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00355" HREF="msg00355.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00496.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Dynamic Descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00498.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00355.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00497"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00497"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00053" HREF="msg00053.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Neighborhood watch</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 05:55 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00047" HREF="msg00047.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Another Approach (was: Integrating PK)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 02:47 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00045" HREF="msg00045.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 01:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00355" HREF="msg00355.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 01:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 21:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00514" HREF="msg00514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 06:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00569" HREF="msg00569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 20:59 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00538" HREF="msg00538.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 02:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00576" HREF="msg00576.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 21:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>