<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance --> <!--X-From-R13: Xrss Yrffryzna <wrssxNgrargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:29:18 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.2.32.19970814153214.00895220#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.970814072452.128E-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Reference: 199708142154.OAA01190#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00583.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00585.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00579.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00592.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00584">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00584">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00584">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:32:14 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Thsi is a very interesting idea, at elast fro a MUD tryign to represent a mroe or less democratic society. Thanks fro the insights JKk At 02:59 PM 8/14/97 PST8PDT, you wrote: >In <<A HREF="msg00549.html">Pine.LNX.3.96.970814072452.128E-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>>, on >08/13/97 > at 11:42 PM, Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> said: > >>On Wed, 13 Aug 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > >>> at 08:06 AM, "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com> said: >>> >>> >I'd be interested on your thoughts on legal systems. >>> >>> Were I to do a legal system I suspect it would be something as >>> follows: > >...deletia... > >>> The jurors would be told that the system will teleport them to a >>> court room at a pre-defined time (30 RL mins later) in the future to >>> stand judgement. > >>What do you do if one or more juror leaves within this period? > >They are logged with the crime on non-attendance, and the number of >jurors in the coutroom decreases. If they all leave, then the trial >defaults to a non-guilty. > >>> The juror list is openly published at the same time. >>> >>> The accused is informed that he is accused and when the trial will >>> be. >>> >>> Jurors may sell or transfer their juror position to any other >>> society member, including the accused, prior to the trial. > >>Aha. > >There's nothing like explicitly encouraging corruption in your legal >system. > >>> Non-attending jurors are tagged with the crime of non-attendance, >>> and may or may not be called to stand trial for that crime. > >>This is a bit iffy - does non-attendence mean logged in, but didn't >>show up? > >The jurors are selected from the pool of players who are members of >the society and are currently logged on at the time the trial >proceedings are started. If a juror does not pass on his jurorship, >and logs off prior to or during the trial, then the crime of >non-attendance is logged against him (may or may not be acted upon). > >Jurors have no chance to not show up. The system teleports them to >courtroom. > >>> The courtroom has no entrances and no exits. There is no possiblity >>> to view an in-progress court case unless one of the jurors brings in a >>> remote camera object. > >Note: Jurors are actively encouraged to bring cameras, weapons of mass >destruction, and anything else they can think of. > >>> It should be amusing at the least, wonderfully chaotic at best, and >>> intensely unfair and primitive at its ideal scene. > >>I'd love to see what happened with this. > >Me too. I'm actually rather pleased with it as a quick 10 minute >throw-away idea at a game's legal system. I'd probably change it >slightly so that the stat editing capabilities in a guilty verdict are >numerically limited, but that's about it. > >-- >J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net >(Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net >---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com >...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... > > > Jeff Kesselman Snr. 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