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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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<PRE>
Thsi is a very interesting idea, at elast fro a MUD tryign to represent a
mroe or less democratic society.

Thanks fro the insights

JKk 
At 02:59 PM 8/14/97 PST8PDT, you wrote:
&gt;In &lt;<A HREF="msg00549.html">Pine.LNX.3.96.970814072452.128E-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>&gt;, on
&gt;08/13/97 
&gt;   at 11:42 PM, Matt Chatterley &lt;root#mpc,dyn.ml.org&gt; said:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;On Wed, 13 Aug 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;    at 08:06 AM, "Jon A. Lambert" &lt;jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com&gt; said:
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;I'd be interested on your thoughts on legal systems.  
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; Were I to do a legal system I suspect it would be something as
&gt;&gt;&gt; follows:
&gt;
&gt;...deletia...
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;   The jurors would be told that the system will teleport them to a
&gt;&gt;&gt; court room at a pre-defined time (30 RL mins later) in the future to
&gt;&gt;&gt; stand judgement.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;What do you do if one or more juror leaves within this period?
&gt;
&gt;They are logged with the crime on non-attendance, and the number of
&gt;jurors in the coutroom decreases.  If they all leave, then the trial
&gt;defaults to a non-guilty.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;   The juror list is openly published at the same time.
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt;   The accused is informed that he is accused and when the trial will
&gt;&gt;&gt; be.
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Jurors may sell or transfer their juror position to any other
&gt;&gt;&gt; society member, including the accused, prior to the trial.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Aha.
&gt;
&gt;There's nothing like explicitly encouraging corruption in your legal
&gt;system.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Non-attending jurors are tagged with the crime of non-attendance,
&gt;&gt;&gt; and may or may not be called to stand trial for that crime.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;This is a bit iffy - does non-attendence mean logged in, but didn't
&gt;&gt;show up?
&gt;
&gt;The jurors are selected from the pool of players who are members of
&gt;the society and are currently logged on at the time the trial
&gt;proceedings are started.  If a juror does not pass on his jurorship,
&gt;and logs off prior to or during the trial, then the crime of
&gt;non-attendance is logged against him (may or may not be acted upon).
&gt;
&gt;Jurors have no chance to not show up.  The system teleports them to
&gt;courtroom.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;   The courtroom has no entrances and no exits.  There is no possiblity
&gt;&gt;&gt; to view an in-progress court case unless one of the jurors brings in a
&gt;&gt;&gt; remote camera object.
&gt;
&gt;Note: Jurors are actively encouraged to bring cameras, weapons of mass
&gt;destruction, and anything else they can think of.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; It should be amusing at the least, wonderfully chaotic at best, and
&gt;&gt;&gt; intensely unfair and primitive at its ideal scene.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;I'd love to see what happened with this.
&gt;
&gt;Me too.  I'm actually rather pleased with it as a quick 10 minute
&gt;throw-away idea at a game's legal system.  I'd probably change it
&gt;slightly so that the stat editing capabilities in a guilty verdict are
&gt;numerically limited, but that's about it.
&gt;
&gt;-- 
&gt;J C Lawrence                           Internet: claw#null,net
&gt;(Contractor)                           Internet: coder#ibm,net
&gt;---------------(*)               Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com
&gt;...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...
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&gt;
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 06 Aug 1997, 00:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00584" HREF="msg00584.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 22:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00605" HREF="msg00605.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 16:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00659" HREF="msg00659.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</A></strong>, 
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