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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
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In &lt;<A HREF="msg00584.html">3.0.2.32.19970814153214.00895220#mail,tenetwork.com</A>&gt;, on 08/14/97 
   at 03:37 PM, Jeff Kesselman &lt;jeffk#tenetwork,com&gt; said:

...details of cannibalistic legal system deletia...

&gt;Thsi is a very interesting idea, at elast fro a MUD tryign to
&gt;represent a mroe or less democratic society.

Actually I thought one of the advantages of the system was that it
wasn't in the slightest democratic.  (I'm not a fan of democracies or
democratic systems BTW)  It was expressly to prevent democratic farces
that features such as:

  -- publicising the juror list _prior_ to the trial, thus allowing
jurors to be attacked, corrupted, murdered, etc.

  -- allowing jurors to sell, trade, or otherwise dispose of their
jurorship, thus increasing corrupting possiblities, stacking of the
jury by the anit-accused, as well as allowing the accused to attempt
to stack the deck in his favour (eg get one juror on his side and then
equip him with murderous weaponry etc).

  -- teleporting jurors with all carried equipment to the courtroom to
encourage mayhem in the courtroom.

  -- requiring all surviving members of the jury to be in the named
pen when the button was pressed, thus allow verdict selection by
attrition or the last-survivor tactic.

  -- Not recording crimes et al within the court room, thus making the
court rooms a laissez faire survival contest.

etc.

&gt;Thanks fro the insights

Welcome.  Coming up with little micro systems like that is something I
enjoy and do a lot.  

-- 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00523" HREF="msg00523.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 23:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00549" HREF="msg00549.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 06:33 GMT
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clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 21:55 GMT
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Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 22:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00592" HREF="msg00592.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 00:07 GMT
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Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 16:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00659" HREF="msg00659.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: ButtheadS and Jurisprudance</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 19 Aug 1997, 00:31 GMT
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