<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS. --> <!--X-From-R13: [negva Yrrtna <znegvaNpnz.fev.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 01:21:13 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.GSO.3.96.970815020851.1903D-100000@tay --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199708121826.LAA26741#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00593.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00595.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00494.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00255.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00594">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00594">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00594">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Martin Keegan <<A HREF="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 02:20:02 +0100 (BST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > In <<A HREF="msg00352.html">Pine.GSO.3.96.970803121452.27011I-100000@dryslwyn</A>>, on 08/03/97 > at 09:50 AM, Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com> said: > > >BTW - there's an Australian talker (called Forest or something) which > >is better than most of the muds out there. > > Come on Martin. You ought to know better than to drop such > unsupported generalisations in here. You are challenged sirrah! > Support your position! Ok. Forest has extremely well written descriptions, reminiscent of the narrative in Infocom's Trinity, and has the potential to suck a user into its world by distracting him/her. My favourite part is the disincentive to quit; typing quit brings up a (assumedly) random interesting message, like Cannot find command 'quit' (Y to quit): or So you were the one that stole the cabbages! (Y to quit): this (together with similar features) is so well done that it goes well beyond gimmickry. Discworld (David Bennett's MUD, not the books) does this well too. Despite being a talker, it has a "clan" system, around which the talker basically revolves. Conversing with fellow clan members is easier than with non-members, so clans become a social construct. They are influencing my idea of my "house" system. The clan system generates player groupings much more strongly than most of the mud equivalents I have seen. In short, talkers, esp the good ones, have a lot to offer the mud design world, esp in terms of presentation. Mk </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00494" HREF="msg00494.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00593.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spellcaster, or Waving Hands</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00595.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00494.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00255.html">OT: Server Web Site</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00594"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00594"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00286" HREF="msg00286.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 14:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 18:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00393" HREF="msg00393.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 15:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00494" HREF="msg00494.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 18:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00594" HREF="msg00594.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 01:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00255" HREF="msg00255.html">OT: Server Web Site</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 28 Jul 1997, 03:56 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00254" HREF="msg00254.html">Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 28 Jul 1997, 03:34 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00253" HREF="msg00253.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 28 Jul 1997, 00:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00257" HREF="msg00257.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Motivating people</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Tue 29 Jul 1997, 06:41 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>