<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 00:31:23 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199708270029.RAA12574#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 3.0.2.32.19970819222205.008a1670#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00750.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00752.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00691.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00758.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00751">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00751">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00751">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 26 Aug 97 17:23:42 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00691.html">3.0.2.32.19970819222205.008a1670#mail,tenetwork.com</A>>, on 08/19/97 at 10:43 PM, Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com> said: >At 09:59 PM 8/19/97 PST8PDT, >JCL wrote: >>On my end I'm a lot more interested in building what I think might be >>an interesting system, and then seeing what people will do with it, >Okay, >So your building a test-tube and Im building a recreational device. >Its a fair and pretty major difference. Not exactly. Both are intended as recreational devices. One attempts to achieve that end is a pre-planned manner such that "fun" occurs in largely pre-known ways by defining a known and well defined game method and purpose. The other builds a set of thought-to-be interesting mechanics, and then gives players free-reign with them to see if they create amusing games within the mechanical interactions. The key is that one pre-defines the game and the game mechanics, and the other pre-defines only the game mechanics and leaves the definition of the game to the players. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00758" HREF="msg00758.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00691" HREF="msg00691.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00750.html">META: Attributions and Eudora</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00752.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00691.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00758.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00751"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00751"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00660" HREF="msg00660.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 19 Aug 1997, 00:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00668" HREF="msg00668.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 19 Aug 1997, 05:44 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00683" HREF="msg00683.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 00:53 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00691" HREF="msg00691.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 05:19 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00751" HREF="msg00751.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 00:31 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00758" HREF="msg00758.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 05:07 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00709" HREF="msg00709.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 24 Aug 1997, 06:27 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00713" HREF="msg00713.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 02:15 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00719" HREF="msg00719.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 06:41 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>