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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
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In &lt;<A HREF="msg00691.html">3.0.2.32.19970819222205.008a1670#mail,tenetwork.com</A>&gt;, on 08/19/97 
   at 10:43 PM, Jeff Kesselman &lt;jeffk#tenetwork,com&gt; said:

&gt;At 09:59 PM 8/19/97 PST8PDT, 
&gt;JCL wrote:

&gt;&gt;On my end I'm a lot more interested in building what I think might be
&gt;&gt;an interesting system, and then seeing what people will do with it,

&gt;Okay,
&gt;So your building a test-tube and Im building a recreational device.

&gt;Its a fair and pretty major difference.

Not exactly.  Both are intended as recreational devices.  One attempts
to achieve that end is a pre-planned manner such that "fun" occurs in
largely pre-known ways by defining a known and well defined game
method and purpose.  The other builds a set of thought-to-be
interesting mechanics, and then gives players free-reign with them to
see if they create amusing games within the mechanical interactions. 
The key is that one pre-defines the game and the game mechanics, and
the other pre-defines only the game mechanics and leaves the
definition of the game to the players.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00660" HREF="msg00660.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 19 Aug 1997, 00:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00668" HREF="msg00668.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 19 Aug 1997, 05:44 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00683" HREF="msg00683.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 00:53 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00691" HREF="msg00691.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 05:19 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00751" HREF="msg00751.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 00:31 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00758" HREF="msg00758.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 05:07 GMT
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Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 24 Aug 1997, 06:27 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00713" HREF="msg00713.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 02:15 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00719" HREF="msg00719.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 06:41 GMT
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