<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: --> <!--X-From-R13: Xrss Yrffryzna <wrssxNgrargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:39:45 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.2.32.19970827154150.008ce730#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 33FC7352.FA22963F#darklock,com --> <!--X-Reference: 199708272101.OAA02986#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00779.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00781.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00774.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00800.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00780">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00780">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00780">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:41:50 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> At 02:04 PM 8/27/97 PST8PDT, you wrote: >Is there *really* an effective difference between any of these other >than the fact that rape has a currency of emotional charge that (we >like to think) racism, sexual discrimination, and sexual orientation >discrimination don't? Yes, i really think it does. It has to do with the emotional trauma involved in the incident. Few people who are discriminated against respond with "I just want him/her dead and ill be okay." This is a COMMON early response to rape. I think that difference alone speaks volumes to those sensitive to hear it. I DO think the holocaust example was probably CLOSE (though not quite as immediate) in emotional impact. I would be p[retty goddamn offended if someone did a command and conquer WWII startegy game where one of teh units you coudl build were gas concetrationc amps, which then produced soap you coudl give to your troops. If I discovered thsi was buitl into the game suddenly and withotu warnign I'ld be VERY upset. People do deal with and get over descrimination incidents without too much long term psychological damage. Living witha rape survivor Ild say the same is NMOT true of rape victims. And goddamnit I was going to get OFF this damn topic :( JK Jeff Kesselman Snr. Game Integration Engineer TEN -- The Total Entertainment Network -- www.ten.net -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/CC/E/IT/MC d+(++)@ s: a C++++$ ULSC+++(++++)$ P++(+++)$ L++ E--- W++$ N++$ o+ K--? w++(+++)$@>--- O+(++)>$ M+>$ !V PS++ PE+ Y+ PGP- t+ 5+ X- R+(++)$>+++* tv+ b+>++ DI+++ !D G e++ h r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Speak Geek! <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/geek.html">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/geek.html</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00699" HREF="msg00699.html">Re:</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00774" HREF="msg00774.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00779.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00781.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00774.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00800.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00780"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00780"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Re:)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00995" HREF="msg00995.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Re:)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 05:07 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00866" HREF="msg00866.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 30 Aug 1997, 22:30 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00810" HREF="msg00810.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 28 Aug 1997, 20:14 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00774" HREF="msg00774.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 21:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00780" HREF="msg00780.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 22:39 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00800" HREF="msg00800.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 28 Aug 1997, 05:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00825" HREF="msg00825.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 29 Aug 1997, 00:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00697" HREF="msg00697.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 23:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00703" HREF="msg00703.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Thu 21 Aug 1997, 18:12 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>