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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
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On 27 Aug 97 at 14:04, clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
> In <<A HREF="msg00699.html">33FC7352.FA22963F#darklock,com</A>>, on 08/21/97
> at 10:05 AM, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com> said:
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> >Do NOT under ANY circumstances build rape code into your game. It's
> >just not an amusing option, and can have some serious repercussions
> >for survivors of such incidents.
>
Some last thoughts and I will leave it lie.
_If_ I do implement any references to rape within my mud theme they
will most likely be background/historical references. There will
_not_ be a "rape" command as has been suggested. If an activity
of this type is explicitly requested and consented too by the
deities/PCs/NPCs involved it will seriously be considered in light of
its implications/use in story development. As such I do not consider
any topic taboo, though some may, and with _good_ reason.
It has been interesting and enlightening to see the responses to
this. Some may have a hard time believing that others do in fact
perceive the world differently than themselves and these views
may offend. My thoughts have been genuine, and I do agree with
JCL that it is _your_ choice to be offended. I only hope we can
explore other interesting(?) approaches to muds without forming
assumed orthodoxies on OTHER topics and it becomes offensive to
state opinion on such.
> These facts are all fairly uninteresting, and actually meaningless
> except to the individuals involved.
I will present some off-topic background information at the end.
Not because it's relevant, necessary or provides any weight to my
opinions. Hopefully it will shed some light on how responsible or
irresponsible I am. I won't respond to comments on it.
> Basic philosophy #1: A person is responsible for the condition they
> find themselves in.
>
> Basic philosophy #2: A person is responsible for the effects they
> create.
>
> Those are deliberately unconditional statements. That given, I define
> offense as a choice of the offended.
>
I share these in some form and would be sorely tempted to phrase them
conditionally. But as "root" objects, they are not altogether alien
to me. (There, that's opaque enough)
A little background:
I have two children ages 12 and 7 and have raised them by myself. My
ex-wife abandoned her responsibilities some 5 years ago to lead a
life of alcoholism, drug-abuse, crime and has not been heard from in
two years. As such I have little tolerance or sensitivity for these
self-made "victims". These "victims" who bear no responsibility for
what they inflict on others. I have strongly held religious beliefs
and my children have been raised accordingly. I am aware that my
ex-wife has been raped several times since her departure. I have
little sensitivity to HER trauma since such "punishments" were
apparently in lieu of money by drug dealers. I have also served two
very short sentences in prison for refusing to comply with Federal
and State regulations regarding firearms and continue my
disobedience. I have also been active in turning purveyors of
child-pornography over to local authorities and have been fired by a
company for not following "proper channels" when said material was
discovered on their network.
Jon A. Lambert
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00866" HREF="msg00866.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 30 Aug 1997, 22:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00810" HREF="msg00810.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 28 Aug 1997, 20:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00774" HREF="msg00774.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00780" HREF="msg00780.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 22:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00800" HREF="msg00800.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 28 Aug 1997, 05:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00825" HREF="msg00825.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 29 Aug 1997, 00:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00697" HREF="msg00697.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00703" HREF="msg00703.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></strong>,
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Thu 21 Aug 1997, 18:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00779" HREF="msg00779.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></strong>,
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