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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</H1>
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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Adam Wiggins <<A HREF="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 04:36:53 -0700 (MST)</LI>
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[Martin K:]
> On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
> > I'd suggest that human players do enough reflexive and reactive
> > thinking in situations of MUD-stress to satisfy that need (I've seen
> > players hurl their bodies out of their chairs when killed, faces drawn
> > and white, far too close to adreniline shock for comfort). Given
> > that, wouldn't coding it into the MUD characters tend to prevent the
>
> Two guys I know (who run the Australian ISP where my dubious webpages
> reside) were playing some beat-em-up coinop game against each other in an
> arcade. All four hands were at the controls, furiously twiddling away,
> eyes transfixed on the huge screen in front of them. The difference was
> that one stood stock still, his only motion being with his fingers,
> whereas the other was heaving his body from side to side with every punch.
Yes. Go into any arcade and you'll notice this. More common is with
first-person games with motion people will lean into the turns. Hell,
even on the old Battlezone vector game we have in our break room where I
work is like this - I have caught myself and others leaning backwards
in an attempt to dodge shots from enemy tanks.
> Certainly I've noticed my heart rate increase when approaching some
> momentously dangerous and rewarding task on a mud. I don't consider this
> sad.
I consider this the ultimate compliment as a game (/world) designer - it's
just a high level of immersiveness. I've seen many people cry out in
literal *pain* when their character gets whomped on particularly hard.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00581" HREF="msg00581.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 22:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00597" HREF="msg00597.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 06:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00600" HREF="msg00600.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>,
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 06:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01045" HREF="msg01045.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Wed 03 Sep 1997, 11:27 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01076" HREF="msg01076.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Thu 04 Sep 1997, 11:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01091" HREF="msg01091.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Level abstractions - Realism vs Game Issues</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 04 Sep 1997, 19:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00030" HREF="msg00030.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>,
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