<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 00:03:24 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199709240001.RAA03029#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.970920130510.122C-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01396.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01400.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01368.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01251.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01397">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01397">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01397">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 22 Sep 97 15:14:21 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg01314.html">Pine.LNX.3.96.970920130510.122C-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>>, on 09/20/97 at 05:08 AM, Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> said: >On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> In <<A HREF="msg01236.html">01BCC369.990E39C0.caliban#darklock,com</A>>, on 09/17/97 >> at 10:10 AM, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com> said: ...new character slaughter loop for XP discussion ellided... >> This is of course a direct variation on the money problems that the >> original habitat games had (recall the two vending machines and their >> different rates?) >Errrm, nope? A while back I posted the various Habitat documents to the list. (*) One of the instance cited occured when an admin noted that a certain player had several million credits on his bank account, a situation which chould not have been able to occur. After some poking about they discovered the following (as mis-remembered): There were vending machines in various parts of the world. One could buy items from the vending machines. One could sell items to the vending machines. The vending machines bounght and sold a variety of items, of various prices. Some players discovered that they could buy certain items cheaply at one machine, and sell them at another for a profit. They quickly escalated this process to use the most expensive (and profitable) items the machines dealt with, and thus managed to "create" obscenely large bank rolls. Perhaps one of the more interesting aspects of this are the recent comments here of implementing local economies in hope of eliminating such chort-circuits. Thus, say, the price of a sword would depend on the local supply. Were there few to no swords, purchase and sale prices would rise. Were Bubba to come back from the wars with a cart load of swords, then prices would fall. The interest derives from the fact that one you allow a player to manipulate the pride of an object, he potentially can control the economy of that object as he wishes. The implications of that fact can be invasive and interesting. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01314" HREF="msg01314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] games gender bias (Re: Affecting the world)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01400.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? 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Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 21 Sep 1997, 19:16 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01407" HREF="msg01407.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 24 Sep 1997, 06:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01437" HREF="msg01437.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Affecting the world</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 25 Sep 1997, 17:18 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>