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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</A> (Alex Oren)</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:34:27 GMT</LI>
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On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 22:41:05 PST8PDT, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:
} On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:40:41 PST8PDT, "Travis Casey"
} <efindel#polaris,net> wrote:
}
} >The instructor is still holding back, however -- if he hadn't been holding
} >back, but had been acting like a truly hostile opponent would, you wouldn't
} >be around to exchange these messages with us. Further, a good teacher doesn't
} >try to teach advanced techniques until after the students have learned the
} >basics.
}
} The way things usually worked...
}
} "All right Bob, I'm going to hit you. Stop me."
} "Okay."
} *WHUMP*
} "OWW!"
} "You're too damn slow, Bob. Try it again."
} "Wait a min..." *WHUMP*
} "OWWW!"
} "Wait? What do you mean 'wait'?"
} "I wasn't ready!"
} "Get your ass up, you little girl..."
}
} Effective, basic, and I don't really call it holding back. You learned
} real fast this way; of course, the instructor was insane, and there's a
} good possibility he would have gotten in real trouble had we gotten
} together and filed a complaint. But you just don't *do* that, you know?
} ;)
I had a similar instructor once.
Although I did learn that way, it was not 100% effective. I tended to
exaggerate defensive moves and shy back from potentially "unsafe" attacks
because even the slightest mistake *HURT*. Oh, my reflexes were getting fast
alright but the foundation of the techniques was shaky and it hindered my
progress beyond a certain level.
Later, when I switched groups, I found a better technique.
Instructor: Pay attention to this.
Me: Ok... [Thump!]
I.: See? Now I'm going to repeat it slowly. Don't do anything you didn't do
before.
Me: OK... [T...h...u...m...p :-)]
I.: Now block it.
Me: OK... [Block]
I.: No. I'll do it faster and you tell me what you did wrong.
Me: OK... [Block...Thump!]. Oh, I get it.
<several more exchanges>
I.: Now practice this with {some other student's name} and then we'll do
variations.
<time passes>
I.: Let's see what you learned.
Me: [Block...Block...Block...Block...Block...Block...Thump!] (you can't get them
all :-) ).
Only after I was taught the basis and got to practice it on a "low" level, I got
to experience the real thing. It allowed me to build more confidence, pay
attention to little (but important) details, etc.
Therefore, I believe that the instruction is more efficient when done on a level
slightly higher than the student's.
--
Have fun,
Alex.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01539" HREF="msg01539.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01499" HREF="msg01499.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01464" HREF="msg01464.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01473" HREF="msg01473.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 05:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01520" HREF="msg01520.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 28 Sep 1997, 15:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01466" HREF="msg01466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 00:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01483" HREF="msg01483.html">[MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 13:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01488" HREF="msg01488.html">[MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 14:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01504" HREF="msg01504.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 27 Sep 1997, 06:01 GMT
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