<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals --> <!--X-From-R13: Rneeva Vlehc <funqrfNzlguvptnzrf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:06:51 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.5.32.19981021105920.008eea50#mythicgames,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 19981018225545.A25950#divcom,slimy.com --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.GSO.3.96.981020142106.1038B-100000#arrow,rutgers.edu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00298.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00300.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00277.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00327.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00299">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00299">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00299">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Darrin Hyrup <<A HREF="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com">shades#mythicgames,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:59:20 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Over the last couple days, several people wrote: >> The other possible lesson that we as a list should be collaborating >> on code rather than reinventing wheels by the truckload. >> >> I get the impression that many people on the list are writing their >> own servers, often from scratch. (I am.) Would anyone be interested >> in collaborating on a base server for experimentation? There's got >> to be a certain amount of drudgery that we can save each other. Hmm, I recall suggesting an OpenMUD project in my reply to Raph last week... glad to see that others have the same idea! :) This is the Mud Development list after all. I think it might also be nice to document our progress, such that new mud developers could look over the steps taken in the project as a tutorial, and catch them up to where the list is, development wise. In any case, I am up for that. I prefer working in a team environment than on my own anyway... its just hard to find people who are interested in doing this sort of thing for free. ;) >> At this point I'm envisioning a collection of modules, so that features >> that aren't interesting in a particular context can be ignored. The >> whole could be under something like the X license or even explicit public >> domain, so that it would be useful for those considering commercial uses >> as well. I think making it explicitly public domain would best serve the members of the list. That way nobody needs to be concerned about what happens with the code. >> Would anyone use such a thing? Would there be any benefit over starting >> with something like a Diku base (which I understand some have done). I've looked at a lot of mud bases out there... the best I've seen (for my particular needs) is Cold/Genesis, but it is not exactly what I want, which is why I have been doing my own. There is also something to be said about doing the work involved to create a mud environment, and I think such a group project would be beneficial to the list. And perhaps the Cold crew might be interested in contributing... after all, its not like we're in competition with each other. >Well as far as I am concerned I would be highly interested in helping >build an advanced engine under a license that would allow commercial use. As would I. :) Best, Darrin </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00246" HREF="msg00246.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jon Leonard <jleonard#divcom,slimy.com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00277" HREF="msg00277.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Elis Pomales <pomales#caip,rutgers.edu></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00298.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00300.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00277.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00327.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00299"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00299"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00222" HREF="msg00222.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Fri 16 Oct 1998, 02:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00224" HREF="msg00224.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 16 Oct 1998, 05:47 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00246" HREF="msg00246.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Mon 19 Oct 1998, 18:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00277" HREF="msg00277.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Elis Pomales <a href="mailto:pomales#caip,rutgers.edu">pomales#caip,rutgers.edu</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 18:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00299" HREF="msg00299.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Darrin Hyrup <a href="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com">shades#mythicgames,com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 15:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 01:16 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00215" HREF="msg00215.html">[MUD-Dev] Network float format (RFC 1014)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 15 Oct 1998, 05:42 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00210" HREF="msg00210.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: unsubscriptions</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 14 Oct 1998, 22:30 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00358" HREF="msg00358.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Unsubscriptions</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 18:07 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>