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<LI><em>From</em>: "Till Eulenspiegel" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:57:50 -0800</LI>
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"All skill-based systems are level based.  It just takes a pendant
and a magnifying glass to find them."  J Lambert.

I've heard this argument before, and I wonder how many people agree
with this sentiment?

I differentiate level and skill systems based on whether the player
gains HPs as they achieve more power as one of the prime measures.
Sounds like an odd yardstick but it works pretty well.

ObFavoriteExample:

My favorite example of a level and skill system thus far has to be Legends
of Kesmai.  They employ a hybrid skill/level system that uses training,
practice and experience.

The player 'buys' training which is applied to future experience.  Each
point
of exp gained is matched by one point of training - so a trained player
earns twice the exp of an untrained one (or this is how we think it worked).

ObLeastFavoriteExample:

Well I have lots of least favorites, but UO is an easy target, with
ambiguous
character advancement and the lack of penalties for using dexterity skills
in platemail (or magery in platemail).

I'd like to hear what other people have observed in this quarter.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jon A. Lambert &lt;jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com&gt;
To: &lt;mud-dev#kanga,nu&gt;
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 1998 23:14
Subject: [MUD-Dev] More Laws


&gt;All skill-based systems are level based.  It just takes a pendant
&gt;and a magnifying glass to find them.  - me  (Usenet May '98)
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<ul><li>Thread context:
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01057" HREF="msg01057.html">[MUD-Dev] Levels versus Skills, who uses them and when.</A></strong>, 
Till Eulenspiegel <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Tue 29 Dec 1998, 20:58 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01053" HREF="msg01053.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: New text formatting rule for MUD-Dev</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 27 Dec 1998, 21:15 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01052" HREF="msg01052.html">[MUD-Dev] META: 1998 Topic Summary</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 27 Dec 1998, 09:49 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01051" HREF="msg01051.html">[MUD-Dev] Terragen</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 25 Dec 1998, 07:49 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01046" HREF="msg01046.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Re: DESIGN: Proposed topic of Discussion (Injecting Pure Signal)</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 23 Dec 1998, 02:37 GMT
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