<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism --> <!--X-From-R13: "Hynqvzve Berybinp" <gbzpngNtnyro.rgs.ot.np.lh> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:17:20 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199810221514260720.00014F8E#relay,eunet.yu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.93.981021191453.9304A-100000#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu --> <!--X-Reference: 362EEBBB.8E01355A#sprynet,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00349.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00351.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00343.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00382.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00350">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00350">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00350">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Vladimir Prelovac" <<A HREF="mailto:tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu">tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:14:26 +0200</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Brandon A Downey wrote: >It's odd that you're willing to stop good players from killing other good >players (some sort of nod to roleplaying, but not really the way to do it, Pardon? Didnt really get this one. >I think the presumption here (and a number of people have pointed this out) is >that most fantasy universes, even high magic ones, do not have every other >item being an epic item of good or evil. I might also point out that this >doesn't prevent a lot of places from doing it anyway. My primary concern was stoping poor roleplayers from being even more poor roleplayers. What am I telling is that an elf would never agree to use orcish clothes (even if they are better then his own), but a poor roleplayer would if that makes his character stronger. I cant for sure say it's the case other way around (ie. if an orc gets elven boots +3 we wouldnt mind wearing it). But to make things somehow even, I will presume that evil races would be lawful, not chaotic, and they would respect the "code of honour" or whatever, that would prevent them using light people's equipment. But, since I dont really see no way of easily handling this, I shall take advice of few folks and make no !GOOD and !EVIL flags on things. (heh! suppose now I had elf wearing 40% of orcish equipment on him. every time he encounters someone, that someone passes an INT test or whatever, and could take this elf for an orc and attack him... hmmmm) </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00306" HREF="msg00306.html">[MUD-Dev] evil - good realism</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Vladimir Prelovac <tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Brandon A Downey <badowney#sprynet,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00349.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00351.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00343.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00382.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00350"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00350"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00306" HREF="msg00306.html">[MUD-Dev] evil - good realism</A></strong>, Vladimir Prelovac <a href="mailto:tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu">tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 17:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00314" HREF="msg00314.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 18:24 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00326" HREF="msg00326.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 01:12 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, Brandon A Downey <a href="mailto:badowney#sprynet,com">badowney#sprynet,com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 08:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00350" HREF="msg00350.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, Vladimir Prelovac <a href="mailto:tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu">tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 13:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00382" HREF="msg00382.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 04:00 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00293" HREF="msg00293.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hacks/Diablo/etc (was: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign))</A></strong>, quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 07:13 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00283" HREF="msg00283.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 02:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00334" HREF="msg00334.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 03:23 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>