<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals --> <!--X-From-R13: Xbry Yryfb <wbryNrr.hjn.rqh.nh> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:30:18 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 362D3814.83437F4#ee,uwa.edu.au --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.SOL.3.96.981020113454.1353D-100000#licia,dtek.chalmers.se --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:joel#ee,uwa.edu.au"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00279.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00281.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00321.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00284.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00280">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00280">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00280">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Joel Kelso <<A HREF="mailto:joel#ee,uwa.edu.au">joel#ee,uwa.edu.au</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:25:40 +0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Niklas Elmqvist wrote: > > We might need to have (compile time option?) more than one calling > > convention, and certain modules might use backdoor entry points > > into other modules for efficiency. > > > > > I'm game. :) > > > > Cool. > > I'm definitely ready to contribute! Why not build a website, draw some > specifications, do some heavy designing (I'm deeply in favor of OO > analysis & design with UML as the modelling language), create a CVS tree, > etc? > > GNU Mud anyone ? What specifications are people interested in ? A personal feature list for a MUD, in rough order of priority: * persistent object store and network accessability (obviously) * text-based network interface for a "player" class of user (at least) * programming language and tools for building large, complex and dynamic virtual worlds * dynamic programming and world-building environment (ie ability to add and modify functionality without taking down server) * ability to communicate objects between servers * portable source code * scalability onto future hardware * distributed database/processing for multiple-machine servers Anyone interested in an extensive specification thrash ? Should this be separated from a design thrash ? > (In that case, why don't we rename this thread "GNU Mud"? :) It should probably change to something other than the current title. Joel Kelso -- joel#ee,uwa.edu.au -------------------------------------- "... great Scott, he's turned into _more than one person_ !" "Well, there was always enough of him." - the Goon Show -- <A HREF="http://ciips.ee.uwa.edu.au/~joel">http://ciips.ee.uwa.edu.au/~joel</A> ------------------------ </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00289" HREF="msg00289.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Jon A. 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Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 18:09 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00319" HREF="msg00319.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 22:14 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00321" HREF="msg00321.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud (was Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 22:33 GMT </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00280" HREF="msg00280.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Joel Kelso <a href="mailto:joel#ee,uwa.edu.au">joel#ee,uwa.edu.au</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 01:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Marc Hernandez <a href="mailto:marc#jb,com">marc#jb,com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 03:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00328" HREF="msg00328.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 01:30 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00289" HREF="msg00289.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 04:53 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00285" HREF="msg00285.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 03:10 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>